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Democracy in Afghanistan

Free and fair elections in Afghanistan...

  • are impossible because of local customs

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • are impossible because of the occupation

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  • are impossible because of Taliban

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  • are impossible because US does want it

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  • are impossible for other reasons

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  • The next elections will be free and fair

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#1
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090320/wl_nm/us_afghan;_ylt=AofqjXbfO3es6qYunrq9tipm.3QA

Opposition fears of an unfair election in Afghanistan this year are well-founded, and a rigged poll would fuel political instability and undermine support for democracy, a top U.N. envoy has warned.

The warning came as Afghan President Hamid Karzai said he welcomed a U.S. deployment of 17,000 extra troops to Afghanistan but that efforts to stabilize the country were "seven years too late."

Afghanistan is suffering its worst violence since U.S.-led forces toppled the Taliban in 2001, with the Islamist insurgency steadily increasing and spreading from the south and east.

Presidential elections are due on August 20, with Karzai expected to be among the candidates. A vote that lacks legitimacy would be further grist for Taliban efforts to undermine popular support for the government and its Western allies.

"All involved -- the government, the opposition, and the international community -- must understand the costs of a flawed and unfair election process," Kai Eide, the U.N. special envoy to Afghanistan, told the U.N. Security Council on Thursday.

"The result (of a rigged poll) would be prolonged political instability when stability is more than ever required (and) would create doubt in the minds of many Afghans about the value of democratic processes when confidence is needed," he said, urging the Kabul government to address opposition concerns on the issue.
What do you think about democracy in Afghanistan?
 
#5
Domovoy said:
And what do you think?
whitecity said:
Seconded.

What do you think KGB_resident?
Democracy in Afghanistan is the shortest anecdote possible. Though human rights defenders from Freedom House think that levels of freedom in Afghanistan and Russia are about the same.

http://www.freedomhouse.org/uploads/WoW09/WOW 2009.pdf

1- highest level (good)
7- low level (bad)

PR - political rights.
CL - civil liberties.

Afghanistan PR - 5, CL - 6
Russia PR - 6, CL - 5

So the situation with civil liberties in Afghanistan is slightly worse than in Russia. But as for political rights then Afghanistan is more free than Russia.

Washington's Political dictionary

Free elections - elections where Washington is free to appoint its puppets.
Unfair elections - election where American puppets don't win.

So from point of view of Washington future elections in Afghanistan are free and fair.

Of course, the thives from Putin's gang run Russia using braiwashing and polit technologies but as for democracy then it is impossible even to compare Russia and Afghanistan.
 
#7
I think it is possible, but the place will have to be fried first. It can only happen when the majority and I mean the vast majority are prepared to put all the local customs bulshiite behind them and work together to a better future. Look how successfuk Japan became..
 
#9
I think it could become one further down the line once the war has been won (although that is by no means certain) and the government have full control of the country, but for now I think we will settle for a stable dictator.
 
#10
How long will it take to transform a feudal society to a democratic one?

Only the last one I can think of, required two buckets of instant sunshine and a Marshall plan to achieve it within a generation.
 
#11
I suspect the best we can hope for for now is some variant on the 'more-or-less-benevolent despot' theme. Anyone strong enough to keep the country united would likely use his position to settle tribal scores. The best chance for a broadly popular strongman died with Masoud.

The longer foreign forces are involved, and the longer civilian casualties mount up (best will or not, it's inevitable) the more the ordinary Afghan will become divorced from whoever happens to occupy Kabul. I doubt they'll automatically flock to Terry but it certainly won't be healthy for political engagement. Democracy can only survive when people are interested in it.
 
#13
Well, I was going to vote for this poll before I felt an AK prod me and looked up to see a bearded man in a turban saying "DURKA DURKA DURKA are impossible because US does want it DURKA DURKA!!" 8O
 

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