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Demise of the city centre

Russia, China, N. Korea, Iran.......we've got lots of enemies out there.

A cashless society would be catastrophic in the event of a serious cyber attack.

Look at the chaos now, when a single bank goes tits up for a few days.
 
Russia, China, N. Korea, Iran.......we've got lots of enemies out there.

A cashless society would be catastrophic in the event of a serious cyber attack.

Look at the chaos now, when a single bank goes tits up for a few days.
So how do you get cash in event of a cyber attack. The whole banking system is electronic; cash just spurts out of the machine at the end.
 
So how do you get cash in event of a cyber attack. The whole banking system is electronic; cash just spurts out of the machine at the end.

No need in Wales, plenty of water all the time, mobile brothels in the fields, and a ready source of food in the fields

No reason to panic for a while here
 
Russia, China, N. Korea, Iran.......we've got lots of enemies out there.

A cashless society would be catastrophic in the event of a serious cyber attack.

Look at the chaos now, when a single bank goes tits up for a few days.
Which is precisely why we keep a nominal cash stash indoors.
Spent many years with a global credit check & platform service provider to witness what can happen when systems crash....viral raid or simply a platform going AWOL. Usually in the States, not UK.
Mostly, it should be said, it was down to inhouse systems failures and not cyber stuff.
In a word...meltdown. Sometimes priceless though.
 
No. It’s near impossible to spend cash without the internet working.
Reminds me of the 70's 3 day Working Week with zero leccy for alternate days.
We just used big cash boxes and carried on, but if a punter did not have close to the right money and had to over pay a bit, we gave a credit note for the over-pay amount as a voucher. If they did not fancy that, they simply walked. Or they could redeem for cash later.
Actually worked fine.
Ways & means..but that was back then.
 
You've totally lost me there.
Every shop these relies on the internet to run its point of sale (POS) system. They have no means of manually entering prices into their tills. Their stock ordering and bill paying are entirely online, so they can’t restock. Without connectivity, they can’t take you cash.

When was the last time you visited a retail outlet of any kind that doesn’t have a connected POS?
 
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Cold_Collation

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Every shop these relies on the internet to run its point of sale system. They have no means of manually entering prices into their tills. Their stock ordering and bill paying are entirely online, so they can’t restock. Without connectivity, they can’t take you cash.

When was the last time you visited a retail outlet of any kind that doesn’t have a connected POS?
One assumes you mean point of sale. Plenty of staff are pieces of shít. :-D
 
Every shop these relies on the internet to run its point of sale system. They have no means of manually entering prices into their tills. Their stock ordering and bill paying are entirely online, so they can’t restock. Without connectivity, they can’t take you cash.

When was the last time you visited a retail outlet of any kind that doesn’t have a connected POS?
VAT receipts etc is the other modern day issue.
Not to forget "Just in Time" stock & order delivery till stats especially for fresh produce.
Back in my day, it was a lot simpler.
The most complex transaction was the "invention" of the Access Card which you had to manually administer from a imprint machine by swiping a triplicate carbon copy form!
If anyone recalls them...
 
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Joker62

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Every shop these relies on the internet to run its point of sale (POS) system. They have no means of manually entering prices into their tills. Their stock ordering and bill paying are entirely online, so they can’t restock. Without connectivity, they can’t take you cash.

When was the last time you visited a retail outlet of any kind that doesn’t have a connected POS?
Judging by my local Co-Op, I'd say that they ar estill using manual stock take and ordering levels, the shelves are virtually always bare!
 
As with quite a few things, the pandemic has hastened processes that were already underway.
The people who will mostly be upset by the new arrangements are the very old, those without bank accounts, tax evaders and money launderers.

I could only really give a toss about the very old (unless they also happen to be tax evaders or money launderers).

What a nice middle class attitude to have.
Not everyone has access to the internet to transfer money around their family, so how in the brave new cashless world would you give your 10 year old a fiver to nip down the shops to buy something?
Most fruities, vending machines, pool tables are still cash.
For those who use car boot/jumble sales/school fetes, do you think all those doing the selling will have card readers? Even a money tree at a mess function would cause problems.

Its also a major pain in the arse when there is a fault with the credit card machine.

Cashless will eventually come, but its far from the very old/dodgy ******* who would be upset with the new arrangements.
 
Every shop these relies on the internet to run its point of sale (POS) system. They have no means of manually entering prices into their tills. Their stock ordering and bill paying are entirely online, so they can’t restock. Without connectivity, they can’t take you cash.

When was the last time you visited a retail outlet of any kind that doesn’t have a connected POS?

The last time I was in the UK and in a small shop, not every shop/business scans their items, bakeries, second hand shops, some corner shops, barbers, chippies etc.
 

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