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#2
You can join the ACF as an instructor whilst continuing to serve in the TA. We have many in my county (including YT). If you don't know any of the local cadet units and there is not one at your TAC your best bet is probably to telephone the local Area (ie Coy Gp) HQ and talk to the CAA who will give you a steer as to where to go and who to talk to.
Many Instructors join directly from the Civ Div. The ACF will give you the trg it thinks you need: You will be required to do all the ACF instructor training etc.

See http://www.armycadets.com/home/

PS I hope that nobody would become an ACF instr for the money but it does pay up to 28 days a year. Not evenings though.
 
#3
try www.armycadetforce.com they are very good for all sources of information ACF related, many have served in the Army, TA as well as just ACF from cadets through to Adults, so it is really a font of ACF Knowledge.
 
#4
It's all quiet on tour so go for it!
 
#5
MattytheKingo said:
and i'm definately not in it for the money althoguh I wouldn't say no, free money is the best sort!

I was just confused because I know guys who did cadet camps in lieu of annual camp and I knew they got paid but I thought it was all voluntary.
The money is not free. Your pay is to defray other costs and expenses incurred in your ACF service. On camps you will work hard for that money. Your day starts before any cadet is awake, and doesnt end until they are all safely back in bed asleep. Thats up to 19 hours a day dealing with all manner of problems the little darlings throw up. And you cant hit them, tell them to fcuk off or ignore them and walk away. You have to solve it, there and then.

Loco Parentis. Looking after other peoples kids. hundreds of them. By the end of a 2 week annual camp you will be absolutely exhausted and at the end of your tether.

If you think its easy, stay in the TA. The ACF won't put you in danger on a tour, but it will want its money's worth in other ways, and if you fcuk up, you might find yourself sued, in court, even in jail.

The ACF is not a jolly for bored ex squaddies or TA. Its a wholly different type of committment. Its still a hell of a lot of fun though!
 
#6
walt_of_the_walts said:
MattytheKingo said:
and i'm definately not in it for the money althoguh I wouldn't say no, free money is the best sort!

I was just confused because I know guys who did cadet camps in lieu of annual camp and I knew they got paid but I thought it was all voluntary.
The money is not free. Your pay is to defray other costs and expenses incurred in your ACF service. On camps you will work hard for that money. Your day starts before any cadet is awake, and doesnt end until they are all safely back in bed asleep. Thats up to 19 hours a day dealing with all manner of problems the little darlings throw up. And you cant hit them, tell the fcuk off or ignore them and walk away. You have to solve it, there and then.

Loco Parentis. Looking after other peoples kids. hundreds of them. By the end of a 2 week annual camp you will be absolutely exhausted and at the end of your tether.

If you think its easy, stay in the TA. The ACF won't put you in danger on a tour, but it will want its money's worth in other ways, and if you fcuk up, you might find yourself sued, in court, even in jail.

The ACF is not a jolly for bored ex squaddies or TA. Its a wholly different type of commitment. Its still a hell of a lot of fun though!
Totally agree, Sleep is a rare commodity, often training halfway through camp as soon as my head hit the pillow I was out like a light.

one thing you need to be aware is it is hard work and small minded squaddies and Civilians do put out thoughtless kiddie fiddler comments without thinking about how hard it is, I don't think most of them could last a day doing what we do, our jobs are too different for comparison, it does take a special person to take it on and stick it through, it is what you make of it, I have been in 5 years and it has gone quick !
 
#8
semper said:
walt_of_the_walts said:
MattytheKingo said:
and i'm definately not in it for the money althoguh I wouldn't say no, free money is the best sort!

I was just confused because I know guys who did cadet camps in lieu of annual camp and I knew they got paid but I thought it was all voluntary.
The money is not free. Your pay is to defray other costs and expenses incurred in your ACF service. On camps you will work hard for that money. Your day starts before any cadet is awake, and doesnt end until they are all safely back in bed asleep. Thats up to 19 hours a day dealing with all manner of problems the little darlings throw up. And you cant hit them, tell the fcuk off or ignore them and walk away. You have to solve it, there and then.

Loco Parentis. Looking after other peoples kids. hundreds of them. By the end of a 2 week annual camp you will be absolutely exhausted and at the end of your tether.

If you think its easy, stay in the TA. The ACF won't put you in danger on a tour, but it will want its money's worth in other ways, and if you fcuk up, you might find yourself sued, in court, even in jail.

The ACF is not a jolly for bored ex squaddies or TA. Its a wholly different type of commitment. Its still a hell of a lot of fun though!
Totally agree, Sleep is a rare commodity, often training halfway through camp as soon as my head hit the pillow I was out like a light.

one thing you need to be aware is it is hard work and small minded squaddies and Civilians do put out thoughtless kiddie fiddler comments without thinking about how hard it is, I don't think most of them could last a day doing what we do, our jobs are too different for comparison, it does take a special person to take it on and stick it through, it is what you make of it, I have been in 5 years and it has gone quick !
It is really not that hard as a ACF Instructor :?
 
#9
I would tend to agree with the SSI.

semper said:
walt_of_the_walts said:
MattytheKingo said:
and i'm definately not in it for the money althoguh I wouldn't say no, free money is the best sort!

I was just confused because I know guys who did cadet camps in lieu of annual camp and I knew they got paid but I thought it was all voluntary.
The money is not free. Your pay is to defray other costs and expenses incurred in your ACF service. On camps you will work hard for that money. Your day starts before any cadet is awake, and doesnt end until they are all safely back in bed asleep. Thats up to 19 hours a day dealing with all manner of problems the little darlings throw up. And you cant hit them, tell the fcuk off or ignore them and walk away. You have to solve it, there and then.

Loco Parentis. Looking after other peoples kids. hundreds of them. By the end of a 2 week annual camp you will be absolutely exhausted and at the end of your tether.

If you think its easy, stay in the TA. The ACF won't put you in danger on a tour, but it will want its money's worth in other ways, and if you fcuk up, you might find yourself sued, in court, even in jail.

The ACF is not a jolly for bored ex squaddies or TA. Its a wholly different type of commitment. Its still a hell of a lot of fun though!
Totally agree, Sleep is a rare commodity, often training halfway through camp as soon as my head hit the pillow I was out like a light.

one thing you need to be aware is it is hard work and small minded squaddies and Civilians do put out thoughtless kiddie fiddler comments without thinking about how hard it is, I don't think most of them could last a day doing what we do, our jobs are too different for comparison, it does take a special person to take it on and stick it through, it is what you make of it, I have been in 5 years and it has gone quick !
I'd always assumed that those making such comments were explicitly refering to how hard it is...
 
#10
sorry probably should have clarified it a bit, it is only as hard as you make it. :oops:
 
#13
I don't think it is any of the above, its more that the work culture and responsibility is very different from the TA.
 
#15
I agree. If every body pulled their weight, we would all get the required amount of down time. The slackers that stay in the bar and don't get up until first parade (or later) really p1ss me off. Their always the first to complain about duties, not because they miss out on training the cadets but because they can't go to the bar.
 
#17
mate good luck to you...........
After 14 years I made the jump in nov 2006 and can honestly say that it gave me a new lease of life if anyone enjoys teaching and all the fun bits of the military then instructing with the cadets is definatley for you.
 
#19
the ACF is brill been in roughly 8 years now all the way from little kid to an adult SI and at times it can be more challenging than u can ever imagine.
 
#20
Black_ops22 said:
the ACF is brill been in roughly 8 years now all the way from little kid to an adult SI and at times it can be more challenging than u can ever imagine.
Really? Harder than we can ever imagine? Fancy giving up cadets any time soon and giving us a hand in Iraq or Afghanistan? Thanks so much...
 

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