Degree

#1
I am currently at university studying criminology. I am at a split between entering the army (RMP) as a soldier or officer. Clearly there is a large difference in pay. And I'm sure most would assume that a degree means I should be applying as an officer. But would I see any benefits from having a degree as a soldier? (faster promotion? etc.)

Few things about me: I'm also in the OTC but all we seem to do is the fun stuff and haven't actually gain any insight into a life as on officer. My fitness isn't a problem (8min 12sec 1.5 mille) Just my main concern is I do not enjoy organising other people. That's not to say I can't do it, but I prefer being setting a tasks and completing them. Anyone have any suggestions to find out if officer is for me? Or questions I should ask myself. Basically I think I'd be a average officer or a excellent NCO.

From reading these boards the majority of replies are complete s***, only serious answers please.
 
#2
Vinci said:
I am currently at university studying criminology. I am at a split between entering the army (RMP) as a solider or officer. Clearly there is a large difference in pay. And I'm sure most would assume that a degree means I should be applying as an officer. But would I see any benefits from having a degree as a solider? (faster promotion? etc.)

Few things about me: I'm also in the OTC but all we seem to do is the fun stuff and haven't actually gain any insight into a life as on officer. My fitness isn't a problem (8min 12sec 1.5 mille) Just my main concern is I do not enjoy organising other people. That's not to say I can't do it, but I prefer being setting a tasks and completing them. Anyone have any suggestions to find out if officer is for me? Oo questions I should ask myself. Basically I think I'd be a average officer or a excellent NCO.

From reading these boards the majority of replies are complete shit, only serious answers please.
You certainly have the personality of an officer.
 

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#3
Vinci said:
I am currently at university studying criminology. I am at a split between entering the army (RMP) as a soldier or officer.

Just my main concern is I do not enjoy organising other people. That's not to say I can't do it, but I prefer being setting a tasks and completing them.
I think that you have answered your own question.
 
#4
Enlisted or Officer

Look at the facts.

In the RMP as an enlisted man you will be an NCO straight from training.
All the rest of the Army will hate you
You will have to work for at least 10 to 12 years to get a salary of 30K, lots of this work will be shift work.
At 40 you will get a lump sum and early departure payments which means you will have to get another job to get you to retirement, when you will be ex RMP and all the world will hate you.

As an Officer in the RMP
All the rest of the Army will hate you, including the enlisted RMP
You will have to work for 5 years to get a salary of 35K, lots of this will be staff work
At 40 you could be Lt Col on 65K plus a good lump sum and worth while pension when you will be an ex officer and the entire world will want to employ you.

If you actually get a degree in criminology it won’t help you progress in the RMP. There are better prospects in other arms and services and you wont be restricted to having wan*ers for your mates. Widen your scope of employment. The RMP is dull, dull, dull.
 
#5
Vinci said:
Few things about me: I'm also in the OTC but all we seem to do is the fun stuff and haven't actually gain any insight into a life as on officer. My fitness isn't a problem (8min 12sec 1.5 mille) Just my main concern is I do not enjoy organising other people. That's not to say I can't do it, but I prefer being setting a tasks and completing them. Anyone have any suggestions to find out if officer is for me? Or questions I should ask myself. Basically I think I'd be a average officer or a excellent NCO.[/b


From reading these boards the majority of replies are complete s***, only serious answers please



Not enjoying organising people, does not seem to be compatible with being an excellent NCO

Being offensive and arrogant is only compatible with being the very worst type of officer.

I would suggest you do neither until, or unless, you develop a mature personality.

And that is a serious answer.
 
#6
Vinci said:
I am currently at university studying criminology. I am at a split between entering the army (RMP) as a soldier or officer. Clearly there is a large difference in pay. And I'm sure most would assume that a degree means I should be applying as an officer. But would I see any benefits from having a degree as a soldier? (faster promotion? etc.)

Few things about me: I'm also in the OTC but all we seem to do is the fun stuff and haven't actually gain any insight into a life as on officer. My fitness isn't a problem (8min 12sec 1.5 mille) Just my main concern is I do not enjoy organising other people. That's not to say I can't do it, but I prefer being setting a tasks and completing them. Anyone have any suggestions to find out if officer is for me? Or questions I should ask myself. Basically I think I'd be a average officer or a excellent NCO.

From reading these boards the majority of replies are complete s***, only serious answers please.
ok serious answer: you sound like an arrogant knob, and are suited to being neither a soldier nor an officer until you sort your attitude out.

if you disregard that answer (from somebody with 17 years experience in the environment you hope to join) as "shit", then see above for the sentence about you being an arrogant knob.

all the best.
 
#7
WitchfinderGeneral said:
Enlisted or Officer

Look at the facts.

In the RMP as an enlisted man you will be an NCO straight from training.
All the rest of the Army will hate you
You will have to work for at least 10 to 12 years to get a salary of 30K, lots of this work will be shift work.
At 40 you will get a lump sum and early departure payments which means you will have to get another job to get you to retirement, when you will be ex RMP and all the world will hate you.

As an Officer in the RMP
All the rest of the Army will hate you, including the enlisted RMP
You will have to work for 5 years to get a salary of 35K, lots of this will be staff work
At 40 you could be Lt Col on 65K plus a good lump sum and worth while pension when you will be an ex officer and the entire world will want to employ you.

If you actually get a degree in criminology it won’t help you progress in the RMP. There are better prospects in other arms and services and you wont be restricted to having wan*ers for your mates. Widen your scope of employment. The RMP is dull, dull, dull.
LMAO! What an exceptionally colorfull description! :)
 
#8
WitchfinderGeneral said:
Enlisted or Officer

Look at the facts.

In the RMP as an enlisted man you will be an NCO straight from training.
All the rest of the Army will hate you
You will have to work for at least 10 to 12 years to get a salary of 30K, lots of this work will be shift work.
At 40 you will get a lump sum and early departure payments which means you will have to get another job to get you to retirement, when you will be ex RMP and all the world will hate you.

As an Officer in the RMP
All the rest of the Army will hate you, including the enlisted RMP
You will have to work for 5 years to get a salary of 35K, lots of this will be staff work
At 40 you could be Lt Col on 65K plus a good lump sum and worth while pension when you will be an ex officer and the entire world will want to employ you.

If you actually get a degree in criminology it won’t help you progress in the RMP. There are better prospects in other arms and services and you wont be restricted to having wan*ers for your mates. Widen your scope of employment. The RMP is dull, dull, dull.
I concur with the above.

Why are you focussed on RMP?

Infantry will give you infinitely more scope; especially if you have conspicuous ability and want to rise to a commensurate rank as an officer.

Without knowing the content of your criminology degree course, I can't comment; but I can say, as a meaningful generalisation, that any degree which has the effect of sharpening your intellect so that you can speedily master complex subjects will be a huge asset to the army, and to you, whereever you go.

Good luck with it all!
 
#9
From reading your post and weighing up all your attributes, I would recommend a career....



in the RAF
 
#10
Private_Pike said:
From reading your post and weighing up all your attributes, I would recommend a career....



in the RAF
As a Snowdrop. They're all jumped up cnuts too. Plus if you have trouble making a decision, you can ask the dog (the rest of them do).
 
#11
Vinci said:
I am currently at university studying criminology. Most of the campus are, by now, completely bored with hearing the shite that I espouse on a day-to-day basis and I therefore thought that I would spread some pump around the ARRSE website as you lot are clearly untermensch deserving of little more than humouring every now and then.

I therefore would like to ask a completely bone question - bone in the sense that I am going to answer it myself later in the paragraph. My question is:

Given that I do not possess any officer qualities whatsoever and, by my own admittance, I possess no leadership ability, common sense or motivation to work - should I join as an Officer. In fact, should I join up at all?

Few things about me: I also big time it in the OTC where all we seem to do is the fun stuff, when we can fit it in around conversations centred on me etc and due to my limited ability to see past the end of my own ego or discuss anything apart from myself I haven't actually gained any insight into a life as an officer. In case I began to stray there and people were concentrating on things other than me I would like to add that my fitness isn't a problem (8min 12sec 1.5 mille) and I am fcuking wonderful.

Basically I'm going to write that I think I'd be an average officer or a excellent NCO in the hope that you will all realise how superb I am and then spend the next 15 pages of this post blowing vast amounts of smoke up my arrse, feeding my ego and putting comments on that I can impress the useless turds that currently surround me with.

From reading these boards the majority of replies are based on fact, personal experience and huge amounts of knowledge but I'll say they are shit as it will give me an excuse to fall back on in the unlikely event that you see straight through my utterly pump post.
 
#13
StabTiffy2B said:
Private_Pike said:
From reading your post and weighing up all your attributes, I would recommend a career....



in the RAF
As a Snowdrop. They're all jumped up cnuts too. Plus if you have trouble making a decision, you can ask the dog (the rest of them do).
You're in the TA, right?
 
#17
Vinci said:
I am currently at university studying criminology. I am at a split between entering the army (RMP) as a soldier or officer. Clearly there is a large difference in pay. And I'm sure most would assume that a degree means I should be applying as an officer. But would I see any benefits from having a degree as a soldier? (faster promotion? etc.)

Few things about me: I'm also in the OTC but all we seem to do is the fun stuff and haven't actually gain any insight into a life as on officer. My fitness isn't a problem (8min 12sec 1.5 mille) Just my main concern is I do not enjoy organising other people. That's not to say I can't do it, but I prefer being setting a tasks and completing them. Anyone have any suggestions to find out if officer is for me? Or questions I should ask myself. Basically I think I'd be a average officer or a excellent NCO.

From reading these boards the majority of replies are complete s***, only serious answers please.
You want to enter the army........f@ckin hell your knob will be glowing like a monkeys hat in no time. MInd you , you sound like a bell end!
 
#18
Well one of your answers is absolutely spot on - join the RAF Police. You sound a total twat and no matter what else they may be, RMP (soldiers & officers) do not put up with twats.

RAF Police on the other hand actively encourage people with your apparent lack of charisma, intelligence (gaining a degree at batchelors proves nothing my friend), personality or drive.

I recommend you join RAFP, work very very hard and within 20-30 years you will be a disgruntled Flt Lt spending your life slagging off RMP and just about anyone else you can think of.

Are you any good at opening and closing gates??
 
#19
Might be an idea to join the ACF you might be able to get promoted with them, but in the army? i doubt it! You my son have the charisma of a soggy chip and i think even if you managed to scrape through as an wodney or one of the lads, people would cotton on to you being a conceited piece of snot and your nickname would in all probabilty be along the lines of 'Billy no Mates' but thats just my opinion! :D
 

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