definitive answer....

#2
yes!
 
#4
i may be wrong on this one, but i believe it's at your Chief Constables' discression.
One of the guys at my last unit was Plod, and he told me the CC can allow up to 10 (ten) Bobbies in his area to be serving at any one time.
I'm not sure if you would be exempt Ops, or Deployments though.
Contact your nearest unit, and speak to their PSAO (Permanant Staff,Admin Officer) for more guidence.
 
#6
Subb0
AWESOME!
you are either a) total IT geek
b) far, far too much spare time!!

many thanks, for making me piss my pants laughing!!

H <--- currently sporting a 'map of africa'
 
#7
Yes but t&c depend on your Force. Mine asks you to apply in writing but as said already, speak to personnel and they can tell you about any quotas and restrictions.

My lot also say you can't volunteer to mobilise. They have been very supportive though and we get half our time given towards any courses and camps and up to 9 weekend days to put towards training weekends as well.
 
#8
I think the not being able to volunteer for Ops is Police service wide not just which force your in. Would it be labelled compulsary if you whispered in someones ear that you wanted to be compulsaryily...(sp??) called up?
 
#9
if you were to 'whisper in the right ears' at TA, then mysteriously, a brown envelope WOULD appear at your door, with 'compulsory' mobilisation papers within, HOWEVER, it is STILL up to your employers wether or not they release you for service.

I'm sure if i'm wrong on this, one of our esteemed ARRSE colleagues will enlighten us both.
 
#10
From what i've read no employer can deny compulsary call up? ( i'm ready to be corrected on that one though!) there are other procedures emergency services have to follow though to join in the first place
 

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#11
Foitin_Irish said:
From what I've read no employer can deny compulsary call up?
They can however, appeal the mobilisation (as can you) and this is clearly outlined in the letter that the MoD sends directly to your employer when you are called up. Being self-employed I got an 'employer notification' the day after I got my call-up.

Anecdotal suggests that appeals by employers are rarely contested. I knew a prison warder whose boss wouldn't let him go, and I've heard of a couple of policemen in the same boat.
 
#12
Foitin_Irish said:
Would it be labelled compulsary if you whispered in someones ear that you wanted to be compulsaryily...(sp??) called up?
I was wondering the same :wink:
 
#13
RP578 said:
Anecdotal suggests that appeals by employers are rarely contested. I knew a prison warder whose boss wouldn't let him go, and I've heard of a couple of policemen in the same boat.
That seems to vary from force to force and nick to nick. From the experience of several mates, Wilts Police Contested mobilisation without batting an eye for Telic 2 and asked the guy concerned to review his position in both the Police and TA. West Mids and GMP allowed two guys from each force to mobilise with their unit, no problem. With HMP Berlinnie and Winston Green were OK about lads deploying on Telic 2 and 3 but HMP Woodhall sacked a guy for disobeying them and deploying. (He was later reinstated but at a different nick) I would say having supportive management is the key.
 
#14
Cheers for all the feedback people, much appreciated. I'll have a chat with the relevant people and take it from there, i getting the idea it all depends on the force your with and the amount of resources they have at the time.
 
#15
Baldrick66 said:
RP578 said:
Anecdotal suggests that appeals by employers are rarely contested. I knew a prison warder whose boss wouldn't let him go, and I've heard of a couple of policemen in the same boat.
That seems to vary from force to force and nick to nick. From the experience of several mates, Wilts Police Contested mobilisation without batting an eye for Telic 2 and asked the guy concerned to review his position in both the Police and TA. West Mids and GMP allowed two guys from each force to mobilise with their unit, no problem. With HMP Berlinnie and Winston Green were OK about lads deploying on Telic 2 and 3 but HMP Woodhall sacked a guy for disobeying them and deploying. (He was later reinstated but at a different nick) I would say having supportive management is the key.
I heard a story about GMP where a couple of Bobbies asked to be excused mobilisation via the employer appeal route and were roundly told that having had an extra 2 weeks paid leave for the last x years, they were going to go.

msr
 
#16
MSR

Heard the same story through the grape vine. One of them who was doing the most wriggling was a Capt in the TA. Employer support seems to be a very two way street in GMP :)
 
#17
Knew a chap from Lothian and Borders who served for a few years. After career chat with his police boss, he left to go to armed response so it depends on the role in each force.

In saying that nice gent from Central currently juggling weekends with shift patterns. Very nice man he tries to attend whenever possible.
 
#18
We have a Troop Commander who is a copper at my unit. As stated aleady it depends on your particular areas reserve forces policy. The guy in question wasnt able to get any information so collared the chief constable at a rememberance service and was told that there wasnt a policy in place but they were looking into it. In the end they adopted the same policy as the Met which, according to the bloke in question, allows a total of 1% of its established numbers to be a member of reserve forces. There were only 2 of them so it wasnt a problem. Not sure how it would work with ops mind.
 
#19
There is currently a file doing the rounds asking for evidence of Govt departments failing to support the Reserves, either by imposing quotas, refusing to allow staff to join or failing to give special leave for trg. The file has the PM behind it and appears to be doing a fair bit of digging. If you are having problems ask the PSAO to submit to it.
 
#20
Foitin_Irish said:
can Old bill serve in the TA?
They can. Not sure if you are looking at 2 R IRISH, but we have a few lads (2-3) who are serving PSNI. As mentioned, I believe you need to have permission from your version of an OC, but may well be higher in the CoC for PSNI.
 

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