deferred at the recurting office overweight help!!

#1
Just need a bit of advice......
I signed up for the Para reg in may and was told I had to lose 25kg to make rsc, so fair enough I have been training ma self to death lost 18kg and at that time I could do my mile and a half in under 10.30 so one of the recruiting sergeants said I was ready to do selection (to join his reg in the LI but not Para reg 9.18min) and the weight doesn’t matter. Just one thing concerning me is will I get deferred for been overweight at rsc? (Next week)

I suspect they just don’t want me to join Para reg (I might be wrong) and it seems they have been delaying my application by losing paperwork ect and making me turn up to the recruiting office only to find out I wasn’t needed there also I get bombarded by why the LI are better and basically saying the Para reg is a waste of time. Any help and advice please!!!
 
#3
Ok i aint in the Army so dont take my advice. I am waiting to do my selection. (Selection is were you pick your role you are going to do in the Army) To join the paras you need a time of around 9:30. So when you do your run again at Selection you would have to get a time less than that or they will offer you another role that you have selected (The job Breifs)

I think....
 
#5
Keep training, and keep losing the poundage.

If YOU really want to be a Para, then if they offer you something else stick to your guns. Even though you will probably have to go away and come back faster.

On the flip side, you can be Para trained in other capbadges.

Is the Infantry or nothing or could you see doing something else?
 
#6
The recruiter is probably trying it on, if your BMI is good eough for RSC, providing your fitness is there then go for Para Regt.

As well as the run, you have to do 10 chin ups which you will find difficult if you are a bit heavy.

The bottom line is if you are determined to go Para Regt, stick to your guns and accept an RSC deferral rather than take another job in the hope that you can either transfer later or do all arms P Coy. Use the deferral to work on your fitness and remember, the recruiter is under pressure by his regimemental bosses to get the numbers into HIS regiment, he is looking after his career, not your interests.

If you want to go Para Regt, this is the first test of your determination, if you fold and do what others want, ... well were you suitable material in the first place?
 
#7
the recruiter is under pressure by his regimemental bosses to get the numbers into HIS regiment, he is looking after his career, not your interests.
This is very true, my mate and I had the same recruiter, my mate chose the recruiters regiment, i didn't. He was like his best mate, now my mates in Basic and the recruiter couldn't care less
 
#8
insert-coin-here said:
Less pies more press ups
Realyl useful contribution.

Dropping 18kgs is a tremendous achievement mate, well done, you must really want it.

Sadly, the forces still rely on using your BMI to guage suitability to train, as worthless as it is.

What height/weight are you now mate? How quickly did you lose the weight? If you lost weight very quickly, chances are you will have lost a lot of strength too.
 
#9
True, it is all about BMI. There were two guys on my selection deffered for being over weight. They didnt look to overweight to me but there BMI was too high apparentlly. Keep working at it pal, itll happen eventually if you want it.
DJ
 
#12
Hmm.
Ask for a larger parachute OR

Get running and when your knees give out (as they will if you dont use proper shoes) start cycling. keep going dont stop when you think that you have done enough cos you havent. when you get knackered there is always something left.

Keep at it beast yourself enough and when you finally get in it wont seem as bad to you as it does to others. You may then make it.

Nothing that is worthwhile is ever easy
 
#13
Many potentially good soldiers are getting turned away because of the BMI scale. I spoke with a training sgt at RSC last month and he was deeply disheartened at seeing decent recruits binned because of the BMI scale.
 
#14
What happened to the old fashioned way of beasting them until they dropped to assess their suitability?

I've always been a bit on the chubby side, but still managed a decent fitness level. I have been known to get 8min BFTs (the old 1.5 mile warm up one too).

I probably wouldn't have got in if it had been on the BMI.
 
#15
Just got selection dates this morning i go on 9th oct so 9 days to get down from 97kg to 91kg.


If anyone can tell me the correct bmi for me my height is 189cm large build age 17. At first i had to get to 90kg then 88kg and now been told 91kg so i cant be shure whats right or wrong as a few mistakes have been made before.

At the end of the day all i can do i get stomping over the hills for 9 days asap! but if anyone can tell me my corect bmi or how to get it that would be very helpfull.
 
#16
Bloody hell, can the paras really ask for that fast a BFT and ten chins? I'm surprised they get anyone given the general standard of fitness in the population. That said, looking at the prog on at the minute on the Marines the general standard of fitness there seems pretty reasonable as well.

If you are trying to lose loads of weight diet is vital. You need bulky low calorie scoff. Did you see Horizon 6 months ago? Food that is full of water stays in you and makes you feel full - porridge, boiled rice, all sorts of beans, veg soups........Exercise is important but if you can put a thousand calorie dent in your intake without feeling hungry that will have a huge effect. If you can be bothered having things like a load of carrots and cabbage for dinner with only two spuds and some tuna or chicken breasts that is half the battle with weight loss. I got my body fat down to silly levels (5-7%) because I'm not too fussy what I eat so long as I'm not hungry.

But your weight loss already is massive.
 
#17
BMI is a joke as it doesn't take into account muscle tissue. According to BMI, I am overweight, but I score almost top points on the RM BFT (WG chins, pressups, situps), <8.30 mile and a half <20 mins 3 miler.

To the OP, make sure you lose weight the correct way. Starving yourself and beasting yourself will end up with you injured or burnt out.
 
#18
According to BMI (IIRC) the entire Lions Squad is obese......
 
#20
gobbyidiot said:
Bloody hell, can the paras really ask for that fast a BFT and ten chins? I'm surprised they get anyone given the general standard of fitness in the population. That said, looking at the prog on at the minute on the Marines the general standard of fitness there seems pretty reasonable as well.
9 30 is not a massive deal if you actually have the drive.

i was 9: 32 with 12 chins and im joining RE. i should have got well lower then that but i tend to get a bit demob happy before any major tests, like selection. i had too long a rest and my time suffered, but hey im not complaining, i came like 4th on the run, first on the chins, and the rest were going for the inf.

and with the marines, its a 1.5 mile warm up in 12: 30 with a 1.5 best effort within 10:30.
theres also a bleep test and lots of getting beasted, but if your driven and put the time in its no problem.

i think the problem i saw at selection is a) people dont train properly. they just sort of say '1.5 miles? how hard is that?' and just assume they can do it because they play football at school, and have no concept of the actual amount of work involved.
b) people just go to hit the minimums. like i was told in the interview at the end, its better to put the effort in before at your own pace, get as fit as you possibly can in the time, and make basic easier on yourself, instead of doing a bit to scrape a 10:50 1.5 and then having to suffer even more at basic then normal.
 

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