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Defence hotel reservation service.

Im glad you were honest enough about the breakfast, I thought it was suspiciously cheap.

But to take your points.

Best VFM I would very much like to know what metric they use, if they offer the cheapest rooms why arent they like booking.com and doing it for the whole world? Or are its VFM because its easier to fool gullible people like Kroneit because they are "free"?

Ensures MoD business travel policy is adhered to, Travel isnt the same as hotels, however the policy can be adapted to whatever the MOD want it to be, the only thing I can think of that the CHBS could do is prevent first class travel when its supposed to be standard. However other firms do that by not paying out (or part paying) if you bluff a first class ticket.
How exactly did Audrey Urbina get away with it for so long?

Lowest rates in industry As I said for VFM, who is saying this? By what measurement? If they have the power to get cheap rooms for the MOD why arent they doing it for the other 66 million people in the country? They would make a mint.

MoDs duty of care - storms, incidents etc (Therefore confirms the MI is used to identify if MoD staff have booked travel in an area) I gave numerous examples earlier why it would be ******* stupid for the MOD to trust a civvie travel/hotel firm to say where its personnel are. However that once again covers travel not hotels.
You accuse me of being thick, have you actually read what you've written? If I could cope with the anger and teeth gnashing I'd love to be you, life must be simple, and at the end of your nose.
 
Institutionalised = Kroneit
I wont be down anything. Has some nasty officer in the past told you to accept losses that were not your fault?
Yes but not for 23 years. Can I just confirm that you think it acceptable that MOD employees be down their own money through no fault of their own? I thought that you finished in a leadership/management position?
 
Yes but not for 23 years. Can I just confirm that you think it acceptable that MOD employees be down their own money through no fault of their own? I thought that you finished in a leadership/management position?

Are you dense as teak? No one is down anything. How the **** do you function in life?
 
You accuse me of being thick, have you actually read what you've written? If I could cope with the anger and teeth gnashing I'd love to be you, life must be simple, and at the end of your nose.

You are thick, you cant book your own hotel. You think that the some seaman coming in to Gibraltar wouldnt be able to book a hotel room. You think people lose money if their company cancels a trip. Etc etc
 
Are you dense as teak? No one is down anything.
Current situation: CHBS credit card covers reservation. On a no show hotel uses CHBS credit card details to cover the cost. MOD has to recover the cost from the traveller if justified.

@stacker1 go it alone situation: Traveller uses own credit card for reservation. On no show hotel uses travellers credit details to cover the cost. Traveller has to recover cost from MOD if justified. For a period of time the traveller is down money. This could incur interest fees or overdraft charges which again can e recovered but possibly not straight away.
How the **** do you function in life?
With open eyes.
 
Current situation: CHBS credit card covers reservation. On a no show hotel uses CHBS credit card details to cover the cost. MOD has to recover the cost from the traveller if justified.

@stacker1 go it alone situation: Traveller uses own credit card for reservation. On no show hotel uses travellers credit details to cover the cost. Traveller has to recover cost from MOD if justified. For a period of time the traveller is down money. This could incur interest fees or overdraft charges which again can e recovered but possibly not straight away.

With open eyes.

You really are going to be one of the ******* begging on the street with a sign saying the army abandoned you aren't you?
I've noticed the narrative has shifted from being down some money, to being down some money for a period of time.
You mean like the MOD expects you to be after you paid for the hotel if you had stayed there?

Another embarrassing bullshit excuse from Kroneit.
 
You really are going to be one of the ******* begging on the street with a sign saying the army abandoned you aren't you?
I've noticed the narrative has shifted from being down some money, to being down some money for a period of time.
You mean like the MOD expects you to be after you paid for the hotel if you had stayed there?
{more ad hominem}Another embarrassing bullshit excuse from Kroneit.
The narrative hasn't shifted. In your scenario, the individual will be will not receive anything for the transaction. With CHBS the individual is not debited without either an investigation or transaction taking place.
 
The narrative hasn't shifted. In your scenario, the individual will be will not receive anything for the transaction. With CHBS the individual is not debited without either an investigation or transaction taking place.
It has shifted because now you have added a period of time.
Regardless of whether the individual gets anything or not. The MOD still expects its personnel to be down for a period of time when they get a hotel.
That period of time is also generally a couple of days from putting the claim in as well.

You really have a talent for making yourself look like a tool don't you?
 
It has shifted because now you have added a period of time.
Regardless of whether the individual gets anything or not. The MOD still expects its personnel to be down for a period of time when they get a hotel.
That period of time is also generally a couple of days from putting the claim in as well.
So you're content to be down money for any period of time, even through no fault of your own?
As an aside, I haven't added a period of time, there's always a period of time, the issue is the length of time.
You really have a talent for making yourself look like a tool don't you?
Well known for it.
 
So you're content to be down money for any period of time, even through no fault of your own?
As an aside, I haven't added a period of time, there's always a period of time, the issue is the length of time.

Well known for it.

You mean like I would be down money for a few days even if I stayed in the hotel? You mean like soldiers are always down when buying their food that they claim back later?

You arent very bright are you?

Are you FTRS? Too scared to let go of the comfort blanket?
 
You mean like I would be down money for a few days even if I stayed in the hotel? You mean like soldiers are always down when buying their food that they claim back later?

You arent very bright are you?

Are you FTRS? Too scared to let go of the comfort blanket?
So you're content to be down money for any period of time, even through no fault of your own?

As for comfort blanket, Maslow is content for now.
 
So you're content to be down money for any period of time, even through no fault of your own?

As for comfort blanket, Maslow is content for now.

Once again you seem to have trouble in realising that the Army make its soldiers "down money for any period of time" whenever they pay for hotels or meals.

What a shock, Kroneit bullshit excuse has fallen on its arse.
 
Once again you seem to have trouble in realising that the Army make its soldiers "down money for any period of time" whenever they pay for hotels or meals.

What a shock, Kroneit bullshit excuse has fallen on its arse.
So you're content to be down money for any period of time, even through no fault of your own?
 
So you're content to be down money for any period of time, even through no fault of your own?

Yes, I am, like you expect all soldiers to be down money at the moment.

Fucked up there with yet another bullshit excuse didnt you?
 
Yes, I am, like you expect all soldiers to be down money at the moment.
Fucked up there with yet another bullshit excuse didnt you?
No I didn't, but you danced around answering my question for long enough.
Anyway, to clarify my standpoint I don't think it is acceptable for any Serviceman or Crown Servant to be in debt through no fault of their own. The current system goes a long way to ensuring that doesn't happen.
Obviously I'm a bullshitting spastic twat etc for thinking that....
 
No I didn't, but you danced around answering my question for long enough.
Anyway, to clarify my standpoint I don't think it is acceptable for any Serviceman or Crown Servant to be in debt through no fault of their own. The current system goes a long way to ensuring that doesn't happen.
Obviously I'm a bullshitting spastic twat etc for thinking that....

Danced? You really are a moron arent you?
The current system goes a long way to ensuring that doesn't happen? Really? Is that why the current system makes soldiers pay for their hotels and food upfront? That is acceptable for them to go into debt through no fault of their own?

Yes mate, you are a bullshitting spastic twat for pretending otherwise.
 
The current system goes a long way to ensuring that doesn't happen? Really? Is that why the current system makes soldiers pay for their hotels and food upfront? That is acceptable for them to go into debt through no fault of their own?
A fair exchange of goods or services has to take place with the current system.
 
Anyway, to clarify my standpoint I don't think it is acceptable for any Serviceman or Crown Servant to be in debt through no fault of their own.

Try and workout the difference between debt and paying out up front and claiming back for something.

The current system goes a long way to ensuring that doesn't happen.

????????

How does that work, if you still have to pay up front and claim back ?

It would be interesting to see the figures for the biggest part of the Forces ( lumped together as Pte's - WO2 for demonstration purposes ) that actually use CHBS on an annual basis.
 
Try and workout the difference between debt and paying out up front and claiming back for something.
????????
How does that work, if you still have to pay up front and claim back ?
It would be interesting to see the figures for the biggest part of the Forces ( lumped together as Pte's - WO2 for demonstration purposes ) that actually use CHBS on an annual basis.
CHBS uses their credit card details to reserve the room. If you no show, CHBS/MOD cover the cost through the UIN then investigate before recovering the money if deemed appropriate. This happened to me in January when we were booked into the wrong hotel and had to do a room swap on arrival.

If you go it alone, your credit card details are used and the money debited from your account to cover the cost on a no show. The onus is then on the the individual to recover the cost of the room from the MOD.

This is just another reason why CHBS is better than everyone booking their own travel.
 
CHBS uses their credit card details to reserve the room. If you no show, CHBS/MOD cover the cost through the UIN then investigate before recovering the money if deemed appropriate.

What has that got to do with debt ? Which is the question I asked.

If you go it alone, your credit card details are used and the money debited from your account to cover the cost on a no show. The onus is then on the the individual to recover the cost of the room from the MOD.

What has that got to do with debt ? Which is the question I asked.

This is just another reason why CHBS is better than everyone booking their own travel.

How did we manage before the internet and mobile phones / smart phones ?
 

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