Defence force or RM?

hi folks,

Currently really wondering about the RM or the defence forces most likely not going into it for a career for life I love the outdoors fishing, hunting etc Ive got my eyes on the Garda when im a bit older im 21 at the moment so later on the 20s ;) , Ive talked to a few lads in the Irish army most say the same thing its fairly boring, alot of free time,barracks are in sh3te condition some worse,not much going on at all really, there are pros and mostly cons by the looks of it but please if anyone severed id love to know. Being from ireland it makes sense going to the irish, near family, not technically away from home etc, obviously its alot smaller then the british army budget wise and everything else, talking to a few lads it sounded alright, I kinda knew there was a few problems with the baracks, some of the people in there, and it being not very "soldiery" if thats makes sense ahah.
Then with the royal marines elite, alot of opportunities, travel,better kit,better overall experience. But then comes being away from home etc Ive never really been away from home for too long.
Fitness as well RM is very demanding, Ive been a heavy lad but dropped alot of weight in the last few years, picked up weight lifting and the running, my running has improved alot although not near the RM standards im fit enough for the defence force, im 230lbs at 6'4 the heavy build doesnt go with me running wise haha, It would look like it would take me next year to get fit for the RM But the main thing is ive no clue what to do Currently not doing college, going to be working this year most likely and continuing on with the fitness aswell, both have positives i think the main cons to the RM is just the distance between family,friends but i suppose it wouldnt matter as much as ye make life long friends in the army. Cons with the irish i suppose from what i heard is that less everything basically, although i know your guaranteed one trip peacekeeping during the 5years. Ive two plans of going into college next year and finishing it 2 years or going to the army, but to be honest I most likely wouldnt ever use the degree im set on the garda although i know its a long process it self. Im just scared looking back older saying why didnt i do this or that you know regrets basically, I think I’d make a good soldier but I know it would be a lot tougher not just physically but mentally in the RM. any advice or anything would be great

Thanks for reading
 

ROMFT

Old-Salt
You seem a bit confused about what you really want to do, you certainly don't want to go into the RM half hearted, or half fit, you won't get past initial selection if you're not top fit & 100% committed, there are more applicants than places available.
Even the Irish army, them peace keeping deployments are no joke, see Golan Heights or Somalia deployments. It's more than dropping a few kilos.
I don't want to be negative, but first thing you need to do is look at yourself in the mirror & ask yourself what do i really want to do & why do i really want to do it.
 
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i think the main cons to the RM is just the distance between family,friends but i suppose it wouldnt matter as much as ye make life long friends in the army.
You do know that the Royal Marines are part of the Navy. Best to get that part right if you apply to be a booty.
 
Why don't you look at the Irish Guards? Based in and around London/Aldershot/Windsor. Easy to fly home on a long week end with Ryan Air. Amongst fellow Irishmen. They even have a picture of Michael Collins in the Officers mess. At 6ft 4in you would be a shoe-in.
 
most say the same thing its fairly boring, alot of free time,barracks are in sh3te condition some worse,not much going on at all really, there are pros and mostly cons by the looks of it but please if anyone severed id love to know.

Because serving in British Army is anything but different...
 
Don't forget the Royal Irish!


Have a look at the rest of his videos too, plenty on life in the regiment, and the opportunities within it, plus interviews and tips from serving soldiers.
 
Don't forget the Royal Irish!


Have a look at the rest of his videos too, plenty on life in the regiment, and the opportunities within it, plus interviews and tips from serving soldiers.
With their Caubeen's, Harp cap badges etc, the Royal Irish look more traditional Irish than some of the Irish Army. With soldiers from North and South, Protestant and Catholic, it is the closest that you are going to get to a United Ireland. Which the T.A.L. moonhowlers hate.
 
In the Defence Forces you will have the opportunity to do a degree (probably part time) and have a full time job while doing it, possibly with Accomodiation provided, plenty of study time available, etc. You may also get financial support for the course. There may be a return for service aspect to it. the DF will only take you up to age of 25

what area do you have in mind?

why do you not want to go for Gardai now?
 
hi folks,

Currently really wondering about the RM or the defence forces most likely not going into it for a career for life I love the outdoors fishing, hunting etc Ive got my eyes on the Garda when im a bit older im 21 at the moment so later on the 20s ;) , Ive talked to a few lads in the Irish army most say the same thing its fairly boring, alot of free time,barracks are in sh3te condition some worse,not much going on at all really, there are pros and mostly cons by the looks of it but please if anyone severed id love to know. Being from ireland it makes sense going to the irish, near family, not technically away from home etc, obviously its alot smaller then the british army budget wise and everything else, talking to a few lads it sounded alright, I kinda knew there was a few problems with the baracks, some of the people in there, and it being not very "soldiery" if thats makes sense ahah.
Then with the royal marines elite, alot of opportunities, travel,better kit,better overall experience. But then comes being away from home etc Ive never really been away from home for too long.
Fitness as well RM is very demanding, Ive been a heavy lad but dropped alot of weight in the last few years, picked up weight lifting and the running, my running has improved alot although not near the RM standards im fit enough for the defence force, im 230lbs at 6'4 the heavy build doesnt go with me running wise haha, It would look like it would take me next year to get fit for the RM But the main thing is ive no clue what to do Currently not doing college, going to be working this year most likely and continuing on with the fitness aswell, both have positives i think the main cons to the RM is just the distance between family,friends but i suppose it wouldnt matter as much as ye make life long friends in the army. Cons with the irish i suppose from what i heard is that less everything basically, although i know your guaranteed one trip peacekeeping during the 5years. Ive two plans of going into college next year and finishing it 2 years or going to the army, but to be honest I most likely wouldnt ever use the degree im set on the garda although i know its a long process it self. Im just scared looking back older saying why didnt i do this or that you know regrets basically, I think I’d make a good soldier but I know it would be a lot tougher not just physically but mentally in the RM. any advice or anything would be great

Thanks for reading

Go to college next year.
Continue to work on your fitness as often as you can.
 
You seem a bit confused about what you really want to do, you certainly don't want to go into the RM half hearted, or half fit, you won't get past initial selection if you're not top fit & 100% committed, there are more applicants than places available.
Even the Irish army, them peace keeping deployments are no joke, see Golan Heights or Somalia deployments. It's more than dropping a few kilos.
I don't want to be negative, but first thing you need to do is look at yourself in the mirror & ask yourself what do i really want to do & why do i really want to do it.
Thanks for the reply,

nothing negative but your fairly right, I’ve always been interested in the marines since I heard about em 2 years back and decided to train for the standards this January and the results have been fairly good, I’ve seen the deployments in chad and they look fairly good but it’s a pity there it’s only one trip in 5 years over peacekeeping, I think I heard with the marines they have one operation or exercise a year, after having a look and weighing up options just confused weither to go local or the British army, I’ve told the parents about both not happy about either but it is what it is!
 
With their Caubeen's, Harp cap badges etc, the Royal Irish look more traditional Irish than some of the Irish Army. With soldiers from North and South, Protestant and Catholic, it is the closest that you are going to get to a United Ireland. Which the T.A.L. moonhowlers hate.
Why don't you look at the Irish Guards? Based in and around London/Aldershot/Windsor. Easy to fly home on a long week end with Ryan Air. Amongst fellow Irishmen. They even have a picture of Michael Collins in the Officers mess. At 6ft 4in you would be a shoe-in.

many thanks lads for the suggestions I had a look at the Royal Irish actually a while back and it looked the best to me personally from the British army, I’ve always wanted to travel a bit and thought I could soldier and see a bit of the world I’ve seen they go to Afghanistan, wonder how many operations they do in the year and the chances to go. It’s something I’ll keep my on!
 
In the Defence Forces you will have the opportunity to do a degree (probably part time) and have a full time job while doing it, possibly with Accomodiation provided, plenty of study time available, etc. You may also get financial support for the course. There may be a return for service aspect to it. the DF will only take you up to age of 25

what area do you have in mind?

why do you not want to go for Gardai now?

I only heard of this recently a guy I talked to was doing an apprenticeship but I don’t know weither he has to do more years then the standard five,

I’ve done two years in a plc college I’ve got a qqi level 6 in computers it was just bearable for me the social aspect of college was good though, It’s not somthing I could do for long as a job stuck inside sitting down, same thing everyday pay from right out of college is fairly good 40k+ but while money is nice I’d rather do something I love for less if that makes sense hah,
With the gards I suppose it’s more of a job for life and I really have the itch for the army and just don’t want to look back saying why I didn’t atleast try it ye know, plus having a bit more life experience would look good as I know they don’t like taking on younger recruits.
Thanks for the reply
 
The Irish defence force will have very limited deployment opportunities. The likes of Mali being the height of it.
There is about 30 of so in Mali with UN & EU

There are about 600 between Lebanon and Syria with the UN

it’s a pity there it’s only one trip in 5 years over peacekeeping

the 1 trip in 5 years is the requirement to extend your contract (of employment)

many do much more. I know an individual who did at least 3 6 month long tours in At least 2 missions in that time.

If you put your hand up (especially if in a specialist area) you have a very good chance of more frequent
 
I only heard of this recently a guy I talked to was doing an apprenticeship but I don’t know weither he has to do more years then the standard five,
the Air Corps take apprentices and I think do 7 years (3/4 years training). Not sure about the Naval Service but all army apprentices are now in house (ie you must already be serving)

I’ve done two years in a plc college I’ve got a qqi level 6 in computers it was just bearable for me the social aspect of college was good though, It’s not somthing I could do for long as a job stuck inside sitting down, same thing everyday pay from right out of college is fairly good 40k+ but while money is nice I’d rather do something I love for less if that makes sense hah,
With the gards I suppose it’s more of a job for life and I really have the itch for the army and just don’t want to look back saying why I didn’t atleast try it ye know, plus having a bit more life experience would look good as I know they don’t like taking on younger recruits.
Thanks for the reply
You mentioned wanting to go back to college?
 

Daxx

MIA
Book Reviewer
If you have you ask here, then neither. Both organisations expect recruits to be capable of making their own decisions.
 
There is about 30 of so in Mali with UN & EU

There are about 600 between Lebanon and Syria with the UN



the 1 trip in 5 years is the requirement to extend your contract (of employment)

many do much more. I know an individual who did at least 3 6 month long tours in At least 2 missions in that time.

If you put your hand up (especially if in a specialist area) you have a very good chance of more frequent
Ahhh right many thanks for clearing that much, sounds Intresting didn’t know that just wondering you mentioned a specialist area what’s the story into getting into them if you know? I remeber the marines saying you can “ping” into areas like sniper, heavy machine operator after two years I haven’t heard of the Irish at all, have you served in the past or currently if you don’t mind saying
Cheers
 
Ahhh right many thanks for clearing that much, sounds Intresting didn’t know that just wondering you mentioned a specialist area what’s the story into getting into them if you know? I remeber the marines saying you can “ping” into areas like sniper, heavy machine operator after two years I haven’t heard of the Irish at all, have you served in the past or currently if you don’t mind saying
Cheers
Well that person I know was a medic

which does of course give a civvy recognised skill base as well. Which is an advantage if not staying too long.

the DF will always have high demand (including overseas) for medics, drivers, mechanics, EOD, etc etc. Infantry there are lots to choose from for overseas.
 
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