Defence Experts on the Media

#1
What annoys me most is that these so called experts are mostly Whitehall jockeys or, like that defence expert during the Kuwaiti spot of bother are ex Lieutenants who did their time and did a bunk. Same again for the liberation of Iraq.

Proper defence experts are the lads who commanded the vehicles out there, who know their stuff, teach it and preach it.
 
#6
What annoys me most is that these so called experts are mostly Whitehall jockeys or, like that defence expert during the Kuwaiti spot of bother are ex Lieutenants who did their time and did a bunk. Same again for the liberation of Iraq.

Proper defence experts are the lads who commanded the vehicles out there, who know their stuff, teach it and preach it.
Most Lt Cols are ex-majors.
Most Majors are ex-Capts

You can see where this is going can't you?

So who'se pissed on your camp fire before your potato was baked?
 
#7
What annoys me most is that these so called experts are mostly Whitehall jockeys or, like that defence expert during the Kuwaiti spot of bother are ex Lieutenants who did their time and did a bunk. Same again for the liberation of Iraq.

Proper defence experts are the lads who commanded the vehicles out there, who know their stuff, teach it and preach it.
You do have a point.

The number of times we had to drive up to J*** N******'s house to interview him regarding various military matters....
Mind you his experience - getting shot down in a Tornado whilst map-reading was more than some.
No bloody cup of tea offered though.
 
#8
You do have a point.

The number of times we had to drive up to J*** N******'s house to interview him regarding various military matters....
Mind you his experience - getting shot down in a Tornado whilst map-reading was more than some.
No bloody cup of tea offered though.
...and getting bummed, allegedly....
 

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#9
You do have a point.

The number of times we had to drive up to J*** N******'s house to interview him regarding various military matters....
Mind you his experience - getting shot down in a Tornado whilst map-reading was more than some.
No bloody cup of tea offered though.
Hmmm, Shot down tornado nav who appears as a military talking head?

Good job you put all the asterisks in to cover up his name or you might have compromised his persec (as if numerous books with photos, TV interviews etc haven't done so already!).
 
#14
Yokel`s and Cuddles` assessments of who resp. what an `expert´ is ain`t all that far from the mark, and they also apply to the Fatherland. Over here, politicians are forever being described in the media as "the (Polit.Party)-expert in Finance/Defence/Health or whatever". Anyhoo, one day a few inquisitive sods at some TV station or other decided to check these assertions for their veracity.

They first read up the BASIC literature generally available on the relevant subject and then framed a few questions, questions that any reasonably well informed member of the public would have no problem answering, let alone an "expert" from the political arena. Over a short period of time they then buttonholed the individual politikers and (very innocently!) presented their questions. Guess how many were "exposed" as pukka-gen experts!

Yeah, you`re right. Well, at least the exercise provided a few laughs for the viewers.
 
#16
Proper defence experts are the lads who commanded the vehicles out there, who know their stuff, teach it and preach it.
During the Falklands War (which I watched from a safe distance-8000 miles safe) a 'Jack' cartoon had AB Jack in anti flash during a lull in the air raids holding court over a map with his oppos.

"If I was the task force commander, I'd put the Booties ashore here, the Paras, across here and the other pongoes here"

One of the audience pipes up; " if you were task force commander, none of them would have come here." Hoots of laughter.

Yes, the DS and DSD at Shrivenham should all be Lance Corporals.

Guns wrote
Lewis Page......... my blood pressure is rising as I type the words.
There is someone who allegedly never saw the inside of the place.
 
#19
Lewis Page's rants led me to write this elsewhere:

Perhaps if he had managed to keep his teddy in the pram, he would of got a MCMV to command. Perhaps his outlook would have been broadened? As I understand it, mine clearence operations in the Gulf in 1991 could only proceed once the missile boat threat had been eliminated (largely by RN Lynx from frigates and destroyers). Then there was the Silkworm that got splashed by HMS Gloucester. Given that he served in the 90s, I don't understand why he thinks MCMVs don't need to be escorted.
 

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