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Grey Fox

*Russian Troll*
It would be interesting to see what would have become of Russia if Britain and its allies hadn't helped Russia in either world war.
Nothing special. Russians were going to win the war, even without British help. But, without it, Russia would get not only East, but also West Europe, too (may be with more seriouse loses, sure).
 

Grey Fox

*Russian Troll*
The point was you were talking about the surrender of one small part of one Empire. Your whole Empire surrendered
Point was that Cherchill was clever guy, who didn't send tanks to Singapore, to soldiers, who didn't want to fight, and send to Russians, who wanted to fight.

The point escapes you once again. We gave up our Empire after fighting two world wars. In one Russia surrendered. In the other Russia had a pact with the Nazi’s.
Thats only your problem, that you cant choose good allies, or cant build state that will be good for your citizens. How many Brits ready to fight against EU or USA for your independence?
 
Point was that Cherchill was clever guy, who didn't send tanks to Singapore, to soldiers, who didn't want to fight, and send to Russians, who wanted to fight.
The point was you were going on about one small part of the Empire which didn’t get tanks because Russia got them and they surrendered as opposed to your entire Empire surrendering without even having any tanks
Thats only your problem, that you cant choose good allies, or cant build state that will be good for your citizens. How many Brits ready to fight against EU or USA for your independence?
As I said, we gave up our Empire. We fought two world wars. Russia was in both as well. In the first it was a U.K. ally and surrendered. In the second it had a pact with the Nazi’s.
 

Grey Fox

*Russian Troll*
The point was you were going on about one small part of the Empire which didn’t get tanks because Russia got them and they surrendered as opposed to your entire Empire surrendering without even having any tanks
People fight well when they have for what fight, and what to defend.

BTW, was Arthur Percival executed, or no?
As I said, we gave up our Empire. We fought two world wars. Russia was in both as well. In the first it was a U.K. ally and surrendered. In the second it had a pact with the Nazi’s.
First of all, it is only your problems. Nor Russia, nor France, nor USA, neither Australia are interested in your existence.
Second - if Russia didn't take part in this wars - the UK was not existed at all.
Third - history have a sense only for making futher decisions. Do you understand your previose mistakes, or will you repeat it?
 
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Bearing in mind how many Russian troops surrendered or were captured during WW2 it’s rather foolish of @Grey Fox to try to start bringing up the idea of troops not wanting to fight.

The number of Russians who surrendered or were captured in WW2 is truly staggering.

Well, staggering by standards of WW2, the complete withdrawal from WW1 by Russia would be hard to beat.........ever!
 
People fight well when they have for what fight, and what to defend.

BTW, was Arthur Percival executed, or no?

First of all, it is only your problems. Nor Russia, nor France, nor USA, neither Australia are interested in your existence.
Second - if Russia didn't take part in this wars - the UK was not existed at all.
Third - history have a sense only for making futher decisions. Do you understand your previose mistakes, or will you repeat it?
Or they like a good song about fighting
 

Grey Fox

*Russian Troll*
Bearing in mind how many Russian troops surrendered or were captured during WW2 it’s rather foolish of @Grey Fox to try to start bringing up the idea of troops not wanting to fight.
Ha! Do you really think, that all conscripts, gathered from newly captured regions of Soviet Union (like West Ukraine, or or Baltic respublics), wished to fight for USSR more than ordinary Indians or Australians wished to fight for British Empire?
 
People fight well when they have for what fight, and what to defend.
It didn’t stop the dissolution of the CCCP though.
BTW, was Arthur Percival executed, or no?
No, died aged 78.
First of all, it is only your problems. Nor Russia, nor France, nor USA, neither Australia are interested in your existence.
It’s my problem Russia surrendered and then had a pact with the Nazi’s?
Second - if Russia didn't take part in this wars - the UK was not existed at all.
Wrong, on so many counts
Third - history have a sense only for making futher decisions. Do you understand your previose mistakes, or will you repeat it?
Pot DE Kettle. Your history in world conflicts is of surrendering and entering into pacts with Nazi’s. Has Russia learnt?
 
People fight well when they have for what fight, and what to defend.

BTW, was Arthur Percival executed, or no?

First of all, it is only your problems. Nor Russia, nor France, nor USA, neither Australia are interested in your existence.
Second - if Russia didn't take part in this wars - the UK was not existed at all.
Third - history have a sense only for making futher decisions. Do you understand your previose mistakes, or will you repeat it?
This may be about your level-

 

Grey Fox

*Russian Troll*
It didn’t stop the dissolution of the CCCP though.
Sure. Nothing is etheral. When communists became weak and stupid, when life of Soviet people became poor, they were removed by Russian people, and after nine years of Dark Age, new good leader was found.

No, died aged 78.
Why? What was the reason not to execute him?

It’s my problem Russia surrendered and then had a pact with the Nazi’s?
No. You problem, that you think, that somebody else have to protect you. You think that EU will not support Irish terrorists, or USA will protect you from French invasion or something..




Pot DE Kettle. Your history in world conflicts is of surrendering and entering into pacts with Nazi’s. Has Russia learnt?
Sure. Russia will make pact with Nazies, Terrorists, Neo-Pagan Cannibals or Aliens, if there will be Russian interest in it
 
Sure. Nothing is etheral. When communists became weak and stupid, when life of Soviet people became poor, they were removed by Russian people,
That’s some rewriting of history :rolleyes:
..and after nine years of Dark Age, new good leader was found.
It was a blip. Still, we understand your need to be ruled by two legged pigs
Why? What was the reason not to execute him?
Because we’re not Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia
No. You problem, that you think, that somebody else have to protect you.
Far from it. Just allies like Russia and France surrender
You think that EU will not support Irish terrorists, or USA will protect you from French invasion or something..
Stop drinking. Time for bed. It’s a school night
Sure. Russia will make pact with Nazies, Terrorists, Neo-Pagan Cannibals or Aliens, if there will be Russian interest in it
Of course, no scruples.
 

Grey Fox

*Russian Troll*
What do you mean?

Still, we understand your need to be ruled by two legged pigs
No. Tellurocraties have to be ruled by strong military leaders.
Because we’re not Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia
Do you want to say, that there was no death punishment in the UK in years of WW2, or your investigators were too stupid/corrupted and didn't found treason in his actions?

Far from it. Just allies like Russia and France surrender
Do you think, that your current allies will not surrender?

Of course, no scruples.
The UK was allie with Nazies, and what is more important - you are allies of Nazies.
 
"A sustained fight between large organized armed forces."

The garrison of Singapore was not "large orginised armed force". It was a mere crowd of cowards, cretins and open enemies of the Empire.
Who inflicting approx 15% killed/wounded on the enemy, with 6% of their own casualties

Making a civilian population fight to the death isn’t the definition of a battle
A week of fighting isn’t cowardice
Surrender instead of unnecessary death isn’t treason

Are you on general russian stronk, or comparing to a different battle in which the civilian population did fight to the death whether they wanted to or not due to living in a city with the glorious leaders name and for the propaganda value
We can respect your people who fought on through the battle, but a brainwashed war mongering rapist is blinkered by Russia’s bullshit view of the world and the constant rewriting of history
 
What do you mean?
Russia, being open and friendly to the West. Back to sabre rattling
No. Tellurocraties have to be ruled by strong military leaders.
Tomato and tomato
Do you want to say, that there was no death punishment in the UK in years of WW2, or your investigators were too stupid/corrupted and didn't found treason in his actions?
Neither, but then you don’t think there was a battle
Do you think, that your current allies will not surrender?
We’re not allied with Russia
The UK was allie with Nazies, and what is more important - you are allies of Nazies.
Says YarS who’s knowledge of history can be written on a postage stamp with a large crayon
 

Grey Fox

*Russian Troll*
Russia, being open and friendly to the West.
Friendship must be mutual. And it was not.
Neither, but then you don’t think there was a battle
Extremely low moral level, was described even by British Generals. And the best way to increase morality is execution of cowards.

We’re not allied with Russia
You allied with USA, Germany, France and others. Do you really think, that they will fight for your (and for their own) interests? How many of your politics work for British interests?
 

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