Death trap failed to protect soldier from mine

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Vector's of little use?
'Death trap' failed to protect soldier from mine

By Thomas Harding, Defence Correspondent, UK Daily Telegraph

Last Updated: 1:42am GMT 22/01/2008

A defence expert has called for the removal of Pinzgauer vehicles from Afghanistan after a sixth soldier was killed in one of the armoured vehicles within a year.

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The soldier from the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers died when his vehicle hit a mine on Sunday, the Ministry of Defence said. He was the first British fatality in six weeks.



With six deaths from Pinzgauers since last August, military observers are questioning their value

Five other soldiers, some from 5 Regiment Royal Artillery, were wounded.

The soldiers were travelling in a convoy near the town of Musa Qala, southern Afghanistan. The MoD said they were "disrupting enemy forces and reassuring local Afghans".

The engineer who died was believed to be travelling in the Pinzgauer which took the brunt of the blast. He is expected to be named tomorrow.

With six deaths from Pinzgauers since last August, military observers are questioning their value. Dr Richard North, editor of the Defence of the Realm blog, said the vehicles were "death traps" that should be replaced by mine-resistant Mastiff trucks.

"These things offer very little protection against the mines we are seeing in Afghanistan."

The troops would even be better off in Snatch Land Rovers," he added, referring to the vehicles much derided in Iraq for offering little protection against roadside bombs.
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The MoD has bought hundreds of Pinzgauers. They have excellent off-road capabilities but offer little protection against the bombs that the Taliban use.
didn't know whether to put this in the QT or here, if it's in the wrong can a mod move it please
 
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QM's mate, have a look at the WMIK thread for an opinion on the value of Dr North's contributions.
 
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With six deaths from Pinzgauers since last August, military observers are questioning their value. Dr Richard North, editor of the Defence of the Realm blog, said the vehicles were "death traps" that should be replaced by mine-resistant Mastiff trucks.
WTF? This joker's career must be going outstandingly well to be editing a blog.

We don't need more military observers or experts, just more military.
 

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petergriffen said:
With six deaths from Pinzgauers since last August, military observers are questioning their value. Dr Richard North, editor of the Defence of the Realm blog, said the vehicles were "death traps" that should be replaced by mine-resistant Mastiff trucks.


My bold.
Death by Pinzgauer? And does he mean observers who are in the military or observers of the military?
 
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whyohwhy said:
With six deaths from Pinzgauers since last August, military observers are questioning their value. Dr Richard North, editor of the Defence of the Realm blog, said the vehicles were "death traps" that should be replaced by mine-resistant Mastiff trucks.
WTF? This joker's career must be going outstandingly well to be editing a blog.
Obviously he was the only 'expert' they could find at short notice.
 

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