Quite a bit of debate in the media at the moment on punishment of those who cause death by dangerous driving. There's this one http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/4871622.stm where a hit and run driver who killed a student whilst driving with no insurance. He got 18 months but will out in four. There also this one http://www.thisisbradford.co.uk/bradford__district/ilkley/news/ILKL_NEWS0.html in which the driver got a Â£1500 fine for the death of his passenger when he crashed his TVR at 50 mph in a 30 zone. He was convicted of careless rather than dangerous driving. At time of the accident he had 11 points on his license and 2 speeding convictions. It seems to me that drivers who death by their actions (rather than in a true "accident") are getting off pretty lightly. Why aren't the charges manslaughter?