Dear MODS - Please can you stop salami slicing Current Affairs to death

Right, last bit before I toddle off to me pit. Moderating is a funny one. When the recruiting thread first came up, we were absolutely brutal with that forum (yes, I moderate that one as well!) as we were getting genuine questions from youngsters and getting responses from morons on the site who offered absolutely no value whatsoever and just ended up clogging up the thread with utter bollocks. We moderated the hell out of it and constantly tagged and warned (and banned a few) individuals about their posts. Eventually, and it took a while, people got the message and now it's extremely rare to get abuse in there as people know it's just not worth it. We have a philosophy of no stupid questions and at one point we had a very successful parents forum in there as well.

We have a less of a problem in CA but every now and then some threads crop that are absolutely pointless and I tend to treat them in the same manner with the aim of eventually keeping CA clear of dross. Other mods may approach it slightly differently and give some threads the benefit of the doubt. Me? If you can't be arsed to post in the correct place and there is a place for everything, I'll just lock it or hole it unless it can genuinely sit somewhere else more appropriate, more often than not the Int Cell.
 
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There are too many forums breaking everything down ad infinitum - it's a pain in the arse to go back and find something or find something in particular and frankly looks like someone being busy just for the sake of being busy.
 
DeltaDog, completely disagree. That thread was a rehash of 'them' jokes and was less of a conversation and more of tired and dull jokes about being the third one on the balcony. If you want to have a conversation, use chat, the clue is on the name. Post boring shite and it gets holed, locked or whatever. I feel sure people would be desperately unhappy if we let shite like that continue to run.
I completely agree - but would it be as easy to send it to the hole and let it run in there?
 
Maybe but the fact that I locked it for everyone to see means just that, so that everyone can see that a load of tosh has been locked and not just hidden away somewhere else. I'm not debating that thread any longer as it's pointless, it's one of many and if you're that determined to debate this particular thread it obviously means far more to you than it does to me or ARRSE!
 

Auld-Yin

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Just lock THIS thread - that will show 'im! :)
 
If people actually thought through things before posting it would help.
For example,this morning a post about "Health and Safety" in News.Is this really News,Current Affairs or Analysis?
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

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Thanks to everyone for their responses, particularly the MODS. I appreciate that there are a lot of judgement calls and having the odd thread moved is a small price to pay for the general high standard with which we're kept in order.

That said, I still think there are too many competing boards. Unless the ARRSE family grows or people spend more time on the site, meaningful contributions will be spread too thinly and I think this is becoming apparent in Current Affairs. Many informed commentators have gone missing and the discussions are becoming slow-motion affairs compared with two years ago and descending into vitriol faster and more often as a result.
 
Just lock THIS thread - that will show 'im! :)
The ironic thing is that DD hasn't even contributed to that particular thread and appears to be adopting the modus operandi of the average contributor to the Daily Mail Online.
 
Dear MODs,

Please move this thread to the appropriate section. This has nothing to do with Current Affairs.

Thanks.

:wink:

MODS, I'll start by saying that you generally do a great job but... I don't know if this is a widely held view but in my humble the Current Affairs forum is suffering from a plethora of competing fora which have grown like topsy. A range of interesting CA topics are getting pigeonholed in the specialist sections which has degraded the number of contributors, the consequent breadth of view and the overall quality of the discussion, not least because no-one has the time to trawl through them all.

Further, when a thread is posted in Current Affairs, it can be shunted off to places other than the Hole for no logical reason. I posted a discussion about the appropriate shape and role for the UK's armed forces. This thread is now in the Strategic Defence and Spending Review section. Why? It has nothing to do with SDSR which is a specific, politically driven, short-term cut and reshaping exercise with specific proposals, like cuts in Boarding School Allowance, for those who wish to discuss them. Are you telling us that all discussions about the future of defence now come under the SDSR umbrella? Why is the interaction of defence with international affairs and UK national policy in the future not Current Affairs?

Please can Current Affairs topics be left in Current Affairs and please can we go back to the happy state of a couple of years ago where Current Affairs activity centred on CA and the Int Cell and wasn't spread across twenty other fora, each populated by a handful of diehards whose posts are generally an unleavened combination of violent agreement and personal attacks on Whet and Ashie. The International Forums have syphoned off a lot of interesting stuff and the RAF and Navy sections likewise ('Why we need a Navy' was a great thread of general Current Affairs interest which generated a lot of heated input. Why that had to be kidnapped just because 'Navy' was in the title, I have no idea).

P.S. I know this is 'Site Issues' but it won't be seen there by anyone other than Auld Yin, who provides quality but not quantity and some feedback from the Kirk might be useful. If I'm a lone voice, I'll wind my neck in.
 

MrDave

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I am sick of bored of reading about people who are sick and bored of reading about pointless and boring posts, so here’s an original idea don’t read them AND STOP BITCHING!
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

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I am sick of bored of reading about people who are sick and bored of reading about pointless and boring posts, so here’s an original idea don’t read them AND STOP BITCHING!
I take it that the dilution of effort point is entirely lost on you. Do you do a lot of writing in green ink?
 

TheIronDuke

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This thread has provided my lunchtime smile. Cheers. Two reasons...

Trying to remember a moan I have heard more often that "Two years ago this board rocked. Now it sucks"

And the fact that a thread about moving threads had to be moved by a Mod to the forum the OP should have stuck it in in the first place.

So with a wry smile I return to work. Those orphanages wont organise their own chemical spill you know.
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

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This thread has provided my lunchtime smile. Cheers. Two reasons...

Trying to remember a moan I have heard more often that "Two years ago this board rocked. Now it sucks"

And the fact that a thread about moving threads had to be moved by a Mod to the forum the OP should have stuck it in in the first place.

So with a wry smile I return to work. Those orphanages wont organise their own chemical spill you know.
It was placed where it was placed so that it would get seen by the constituency it was addressing and therefore the feedback would have more value for the site administrators. The fact it was really 'site issues' was acknowledged at the time.

In terms of the 'not as good as it once was', sure that could be a gripe but I put forward my reasons for you to take issue with and there's no doubt that there are now a greater number of forums that two years ago. Unless the Arrse contributor pool grows commensurately or everyone increases their posting time, there will be an inevitable dilution of contribution and, most likely, quality. The best threads strike an immediate chord with the membership and generate rapid responses and exchanges, if fewer people are taking longer to find them, this energy will be reduced and the quality of the thread with it.

I'm glad you think things are perfect, I didn't and made some constructive comments which others have amplified and we've had a discussion. In my view that's the best way to keep Arrse in the top 100,000 sites - you may have other ideas.
 

TheIronDuke

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Ho de doh. One step at a time sweet Jesus, one step at a time.

Unless the Arrse contributor pool grows commensurately or everyone increases their posting time, there will be an inevitable dilution of contribution and, most likely, quality.
Yeah. You are right. Not sure I agree with "inevitable dilution of contribution"? Shirley, if a board gets big, then dilution is inevatble? A bit like flooding the market with heroin. You get shitloads of smack, but one has to pick and choose ones feeds, yah?

The best threads strike an immediate chord with the membership
Now, here I do agree. And if those threads strike a chord, then my Mods will let them stay where they were put. If not, then they will move them. Or shit-can them. As they see fit.

Glad we had this chat. My door is always open.
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

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Ho de doh. One step at a time sweet Jesus, one step at a time.



Yeah. You are right. Not sure I agree with "inevitable dilution of contribution"? Shirley, if a board gets big, then dilution is inevatble? A bit like flooding the market with heroin. You get shitloads of smack, but one has to pick and choose ones feeds, yah?



Now, here I do agree. And if those threads strike a chord, then my Mods will let them stay where they were put. If not, then they will move them. Or shit-can them. As they see fit.

Glad we had this chat. My door is always open.
Go and implode, there's a good chap.
 
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