dating of military shell casing

Discussion in 'Military History and Militaria' started by mikewake, Apr 10, 2012.

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  1. Hi everyone,

    Unfortunately I am completely uneducated when it comes too shell casing as I am just 17. I would appreciate any help you could all offer to date a military shell casing that I have inherited.

    Many thanks, Mike
     
  2. Is it a shell (projectile that is fired from the gun) or a cartridge case (empty brass tube)? What markings are stamped or printed on the item? A picture would be ideal!
     
  3. Good morning Mike..

    Dating ammunition items is not that easy as each nation has it's own marking scheme.. Some have a manufacturing date, but for others you just have to go on dating by type. Cartridge cases are usually marked on the base.

    There are a number of sources for tracking ammunition markings on the internet..


    The Ammunition Pages are a good source:

    Ammunition Pages - Ammunition of the world

    Anthony Williams site is also good...

    CANNON, MACHINE GUNS AND AMMUNITION

    Please remember that collecting ammunition is potentially dangerous and that you must never pick stuff up from ranges..

    If you can post the size and any markings on your case, or even better, post a photo, then someone may be able to help..

    Best of luck...
     
  4. Thanks for the replies guys,
    Its an empty brass looking tube marked with it saying 18 pdr on the base more details and hopefully pictures to follow
     
  5. The 18pdr Field Artillery piece and it's associated ammunition is WW1 era. It was maintained between the wars and converted to 25pdr during WWII.

    So the date of your cart case could span a 40 year period. There will often be a date also on the base, but this could have worn over time.

    Get a used wet tea bag and wipe it over the base, this may highlight some markings without damaging the case.
     
  6. Ok the bottom reads,
    CF. 18pr 2( in roman numerals). Lot 1696. 11/15. Bsc S ( the s being in a square)
    Inner circle: no.1/2 ( 2 again in roman numerals). Lot 1910. 10/15 bsc and finally us in a circle. I shall take a photo and upload it In a short while
     
  7. 10/15 probably denotes October of 1915 as date of manufacture. BSC is probably name of the manufacturer.
     
  8. Thanks mike,

    I do have a complete technically correct answer for you, but I want to see tossers response - just for a laugh.

    Did you try the tea bag tip? Did it work?
     
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  9. i can clearly see all the stampings on the bottom of the shell so no need for a tea bag and please find the photos attached IMG_0619(2).jpg IMG_0611(2).jpg if you require better pictures a have the original high quality ones on the DSLR which i could email for you.
    again thanks for all your help
     
  10. The very large "CF" is most likely the intials for "Chilwell Factory" in Nottingham which was the largest filling factory in the country during the great war and site of one of the largest ever explosions in the UK.

    To this day it is still the location of a large depot.
     
  11. Enlarged it for you.

    Capture.JPG
     
  12. Have a look at the Western Front Museum web site. they show photos of shell markings.

    CF definitely stands for Charge loaded with cordite / Full charge
     
  13. Hubba Hubba Ammo Tech porn!
     
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  14. It's so difficult to meet one of the right caliber.
     
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