Danish Troops killed by British Friendly Fire

#1
Terrible news :(

Danes Killed By British Troops

Updated:20:10, Tuesday December 18, 2007

British troops are believed to have killed two Danish soldiers in a "friendly fire" attack in Afghanistan.

The Danish equivalent of the Ministry of Defence said privates Mikkel Keil Sorensen and Thorbjorn Ole Reese were killed on September 26 in Helmand Province but the Danish report into their deaths was released only now.

The two soldiers were part of the International Security Assistance Force and had been on operations north of Gereshk, trying to combat the Taliban, when they were killed.

The Judge Advocate General's Corps in Denmark concluded that they died during British strikes in what was a "tragic mistake".

The Ministry of Defence has now pledged to carry out its own full investigation into the incident.
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Brigadier Andrew Mackay said: "I would like to express my deepest sympathies to the families and friends of Privates Mikkel Keil Sørensen and Thorbjørn Ole Reese at this difficult time.

"From my own personal experience of having the Danish Battlegroup now under my command here in Helmand I know that this incident will not sway the resolve of the Danish soldiers who continue to work alongside their British counterparts in Afghanistan.

"I know that they will continue to show the same bravery and dedication to their duties as they continue to play a vital role alongside us in the defeat of the Taliban within Helmand.

"I am, of course, concerned that we establish exactly what happened on 26 September.

"The circumstances surrounding this tragic incident will be thoroughly investigated by the British Army."
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1297529,00.html
 
#3
Tragic.

RIP.
 
#4
Very sad news indeed. The incident was mentioned on ARRSE some time ago. The general reaction here was as you would expect: deep regret for these accidental deaths amongst comrades on operations. Rightly, there was also sympathy for the British troops involved.

I discussed this sensitive matter earlier this month with a colleague from one of BAFF's Danish counterpart military organisations. [Who have also been helpful to us in connection with the Iraqi interpreters.] He described the attitude amongst the Danish troops very much as stated by Comd 52 Brigade. In my experience, good people to have on your side.

D.Y.
 
#5
My condolences to the families...

But I must admit to some mystification; in my perusing this site, it has become abundantly clear to me that only those cowboy, trigger-happy Americans commit blue-on-blue, and that British forces would NEVER do anything like those septics do.

Could I have been misled?
 
#6
Yank_Lurker said:
My condolences to the families...

But I must admit to some mystification; in my perusing this site, it has become abundantly clear to me that only those cowboy, trigger-happy Americans commit blue-on-blue, and that British forces would NEVER do anything like those septics do.

Could I have been misled?
No, we just admit our clusterf@#!s, rather than DENYDENYDENY!
Trying to put one over on UK forces in this snide manner is neither big or clever. Do One.
PS
 
#7
Yank_Lurker said:
My condolences to the families...

But I must admit to some mystification; in my perusing this site, it has become abundantly clear to me that only those cowboy, trigger-happy Americans commit blue-on-blue, and that British forces would NEVER do anything like those septics do.

Could I have been misled?
Please don't disrespect this post with your ridiculous attempts at sarcasm. Start a thread somewhere else.

RIP to those who died, a truly tragic accident.
 
#8
Pitswamper said:
No, we just admit our clusterf@#!s, rather than DENYDENYDENY!

PS
Incident occured in September. UK did not issue any statement. News has been broken due to Danish release of a report.

Apparently Brit MoD has not yet even begun its own investigation.

"The circumstances surrounding this tragic incident will be thoroughly investigated by the British Army."
 
#9
C+ck off w+nk lurker

Trolling off the back of friendly deaths is a cnuts trick

I forgive your bretheren for brassing me the feck up in 2005 for apparently being a "motherfecking sinister dude"

But you are a jockey of the knob

YOU ARE ONLY GETTING AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE ITS DARK O CLOCK UK SIDE
 
#10
PS did I say you were a

CNUT

If I didn't feel free to remind me tommorow
 
#11
Trolling? No. I feel bad about every Coalition death, incredibly bad.

If you want to call bringing cognitive dissonance to one's attention "trolling", you may go right ahead. But this forum is thick with jabs at the Yanks for blue on blue--which we loathe just as much, and yet it would seem from reading posts around here that we go about it with relish.

Had this been a thread about Yanks lighting up some squaddies, there would already be 5 pages of shite being slung at those kill-happy septics.
 
#12
Yank_Lurker said:
Trolling? No. I feel bad about every Coalition death, incredibly bad.

If you want to call bringing cognitive dissonance to one's attention "trolling", you may go right ahead. But this forum is thick with jabs at the Yanks for blue on blue--which we loathe just as much, and yet it would seem from reading posts around here that we go about it with relish.

Had this been a thread about Yanks lighting up some squaddies, there would already be 5 pages of shite being slung at those kill-happy septics.
The issues people have with the yank 'mistakes' is exacerbated by the number of reported occurances (considerably more than anyone else that I am aware of) and by the generally perceived and reported 'gung-ho' attitude of US servicemen. I do hasten to add this isn't the case with all by any means, I have served with many great members of the US military.

You are still a total cnut for bringing this up on this thread though. If you have issues it should of been done somewhere else.
 
#13
I agree this isn't the right place for this but don't you think the reason for more American cases of friendly fire is simply the greater number of troops/aircraft?

I mean it's pretty simple math, if the US has 10 times the number of troops/aircraft as other members of the coalition won't it also have 10 times the number of friendly fire incidents? So in terms of rates of friendly fire per soldier this one case of British friendly fire is equal to 10 American friendly fires.
 
#14
Whatever we do, blue-on-blues happen. Whatever the technology, whatever the training, whatever the ROEs, someone somewhere is going to make a mistake. The reason that many of them seem attributable to the Americans is that there are more of them and they tend to have the biggest guns. It is not necessarily a lack of professionalism on anyones part. IIRC this is at least the third blue-on-blue incident where British Forces have caused friendly casualties since the start of Ops. Telic/Herrick.

This event happened in September, it is now December. That's only three months to come to a conclusion. If this was in the UK, it would be at least 18 months away from an inquest date.
 
#15
Yank_Lurker said:
My condolences to the families...

But I must admit to some mystification; in my perusing this site, it has become abundantly clear to me that only those cowboy, trigger-happy Americans commit blue-on-blue, and that British forces would NEVER do anything like those septics do.

Could I have been misled?
This is a British forum. What do you expect. Now fcuk off.
 
#16
Head above parapet.
Actually gents Yank Lurker has a good point and he is quite right to bring this up on this thread. He's touched a nerve and we dont like it, I dont really but I agree with him.
Head below hard cover.
Yank, the issue is that the GB govt/ MOD has/ is investigating this and being very honest however the US govt/ DoD sometimes does not seem to want to know, eg the recent issue of the cockpit camera of the USAF/ Navy jets taking out one of our vehicles. The DoD tried everything in it's power to stop that being shown at the inquest for the dead soldiers, that went down like a pork pie in a mosque.
This sort of thing has happened since the stone age, and it will always happen.
 
#17
A deeply tragic incident and my condolences to the NOK.

The sad truth is that irrespective of technology and procedures and training, there will always be friendly fire casualties, anyone who thinks otherwise has obviously never served on operations or been exposed to the sheer confusion of the job. The only thing you can do is learn from each experience and try to reduce the risk as much as possible.

This is where our American colleagues (Who I quiet like) fall down. They tend to cover things up rather than investigate.

Investigation of friendly fire should be to establish exactly what went wrong and why and not to point fingers at individuals.

I cant speak for anyone else but it has got to be a soldiers worst nightmare to inflict friendly fire on anyone. How do you live with yourself after that?
 
#18
Yank_Lurker said:
...Incident occured in September. UK did not issue any statement. News has been broken due to Danish release of a report.

Apparently Brit MoD has not yet even begun its own investigation..."
Check your facts, my friend. See, for example, BBC 26th November - "MoD probes 'friendly fire' claim"

A spokesman for the MoD said it is working alongside the Danish government to try to find out what happened.
It is obvious that the Danish authorities would have primacy in the initial stages of the investigation into the tragic deaths of Privates Sorensen and Reese.
 
#19
762baynet said:
eg the recent issue of the cockpit camera of the USAF/ Navy jets taking out one of our vehicles. The DoD tried everything in it's power to stop that being shown at the inquest for the dead soldiers,
IMHO the US try and protect their service people from courts wherever possible but I am not so naive to believe that the it was solely the DoD who tried to stop that footage being shown at the inquest. There probably was also cock up/conspiracy on the UK side.

The drama is that in the UK there is less (or no) political will to protect soldiers from lawyers.
 
#20
To Yank Lurker:-

Don't worry mate, the good old USA is still leading the way in the mistreatment of prisoners and the tyinig up of Iraqi civilians before shooting them in the head (an action which gets only some 7 years' jail time).

Now be a good boy and go hang around a mall, you might take a sucking chest wound from a spotty pi$$ed off teenager who's mommy didn't love him enough to make our day!

To our Danish Friends:-

Vi skall aldri glem dere!
 

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