Daily Telegraph on 16 Feb 07 - the RM in Afghanistan

Discussion in 'Current Affairs, News and Analysis' started by Litotes, Feb 16, 2007.

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  1. There is a good article (full page) on an Afghanistan firefight with the Royal Marines in today's Telegraph.

    Firefight with the Marines in Afghanistan

    And a follow-up television programme by the looks of it.

    Litotes
     
  2. Is Chris Terill ex-mil. Some of the expresssions and language are too pat for a normal journo.

    All in all a really good article - compare to the female RAF pilot earlier in the week for contrast!
     
  3. Looks like 'Vinders' was the casualty that provoked the Apache-laden rescue/recovery mission
     
  4. I dont want to start slagging the blokes off who are over there in def difficult conditions but.......

    "Ok Lads! Go for it! Down to the ridge!" shouts Lt Kerr. I get to my feet and join the desperate sprint for safety and for the first time, with my back to the bullets, feel really vulnerable. "

    Let me get this straight..
    COY advance to contact and
    as soon as they came under contact....they ran away immediately????


    PLUS

    "Eight enemy are dead and the rest flee. We immediately advance and consolidate the position."

    A company of baked beans vs a section of terry and they needed air support????
     
  5. if you dont want to start slagging people off..............then dont.
     
  6. ref: airbore daves comments

    good point but hardley baiased coming from a para
     
  7. made sence when i thought it
     
  8. The_Duke

    The_Duke LE Moderator

    A_D,

    Of course another point of view would be that the Pl Comd took the decision to move to somewhere where he would be better situated to launch the attack, rather than just charge into the face of the enemy position from where he happened to be.

    For your second point, if airpower was the best way to remove the enemy from their prepared positions, then why risk further injury or death to the RM involved when their aim could be achieved using stand off methods.

    Don't worry about it, just let others get on with doing the tactical thinking and you just keep covering the arcs you are told to cover.

    Duke
     
  9. Good article.

    RIP Vinders -hope the beer is flowing in Valhalla
     
  10. I thought that might wind a few of you up.

    jeez just having a laugh

    have a couple good friends out there from 45. have muchos respect for the RM lads (hey at least they arent RAF Regiment) and of course RIP to all those fallen

    it was just a wind up to get some banter. thought there might be something a bit more severe from some booties reading this thread......wait out....

    On the tactics side of things
    Of course the boss extracted his plt out of an exposed killing area while another sub unit gave fire support - Fire and Movement, plus the article says that the other plt opened up pretty much asap (obv in mutual support with alternative but supporting arcs) would not expect anything less from our blokes


    And sure as sh*t if i could have had AH on call 24/7 I would.

    I just couldn't resist having a crack at the blokes

    Like stated above

    RIP Vinders and keep safe to the rest of the lads.

    Now....back to my arcs!
     
  11. The_Duke

    The_Duke LE Moderator

    A_D

    Nice bluff attempt at a recovery, if only you knew what you were on about. Alternative arcs?

    Duke
     
  12. A_D
    You were about to get a full on bollocking from above before I read your retraction.
    I always avoid commenting on tactics cos I aint there! I dont know what is going on and I strongly suspect neither did the Journalist! Having been under fairly hairy sustained fire many years ago I know that any sense of perspective about a battle goes to ratshit about 2 hours before the shooting starts, and a journo busy keking his pants would obviously focus on himself and his task. Therefore the report would be very much a personal perspective. Having said that, This sort of reporting is what we need from journalists. less "bush blair blah" and more about what its LIKE to know some bastard wants to make high velocity holes in you. It will get the forces more appreciated for what they do and maybe get them better treated in the long run.
    So far everyone in Stan has done a good job
    Paras for the hanging on in the face of heavy pressure
    Marines for following this up
    RAF regiment for giving us armchair ARRSEers something to laugh/ rant/ argue about
     
  13. The_Duke

    The_Duke LE Moderator

    A_D,

    PM sent - I will not drag this thread off further.