Daily Mail on the Army v Navy Rugby

#1
Found this little snippet tucked away in the back of the Mail in some bloke called Charles Sale's column:

The sporting event which attracted the biggest crowd of the weekend - more than 50,000 - didn't even warrant a mention in the rugby union fixture lists.

But the Navy's first victory over the Army for nine years at Twickenham still required a larger police presence - both Met and military - than any other match in the calendar.

This is due to residents' concerns about the serious potential for drink-related trouble, such is the massive booze-fest in local pubs before and after the armed forces showdown.


So is the reason that they shut up shop early evening? Never known the reasons for it, I just assumed that all the bar staff were knackered!
 
#2
Aren't there extra coppers due to the high level of streaking / general nudity.

On that note congratulations to Zorro for superb E&E skills!
 
#3
it was on the RFU fixtures list
 
#4
broken_man said:
Aren't there extra coppers due to the high level of streaking / general nudity.

On that note congratulations to Zorro for superb E&E skills!
Not sure but there always seems an overkill of the law everywhere, I think I've only ever seen one punch up there in 10 years.
 
#5
I saw Zorro at Clapham Junction station on the way home....standing ovation from those at the match, both Green/Red and Blue. Civvies didn't have a clue what was going on.
What a hero!
 
#6
jack-daniels said:
I think I've only ever seen one punch up there in 10 years.
Was that the one last year ?

:D
 
#7
jack-daniels said:
broken_man said:
Aren't there extra coppers due to the high level of streaking / general nudity.

On that note congratulations to Zorro for superb E&E skills!
Not sure but there always seems an overkill of the law everywhere, I think I've only ever seen one punch up there in 10 years.
An excuse to get a bit of overtime in? :D Agreed JD, have only ever saw the odd handbag fight, nothing that requires the scale that is present.
 
#8
jack-daniels said:
Found this little snippet tucked away in the back of the Mail in some bloke called Charles Sale's column:

The sporting event which attracted the biggest crowd of the weekend - more than 50,000 - didn't even warrant a mention in the rugby union fixture lists.

But the Navy's first victory over the Army for nine years at Twickenham still required a larger police presence - both Met and military - than any other match in the calendar.

This is due to residents' concerns about the serious potential for drink-related trouble, such is the massive booze-fest in local pubs before and after the armed forces showdown.


So is the reason that they shut up shop early evening? Never known the reasons for it, I just assumed that all the bar staff were knackered!
That will be the residents happily selling food drink etc to us on the way past, personally I think that it is just an easy overtime stint, or possibly the secirity risk of having that many service peeps in a close area.
Also has the journalist who scribbled that never been to a kissball game ever.
 
#9
Conrad_Cock said:
jack-daniels said:
Found this little snippet tucked away in the back of the Mail in some bloke called Charles Sale's column:

The sporting event which attracted the biggest crowd of the weekend - more than 50,000 - didn't even warrant a mention in the rugby union fixture lists.

But the Navy's first victory over the Army for nine years at Twickenham still required a larger police presence - both Met and military - than any other match in the calendar.

This is due to residents' concerns about the serious potential for drink-related trouble, such is the massive booze-fest in local pubs before and after the armed forces showdown.


So is the reason that they shut up shop early evening? Never known the reasons for it, I just assumed that all the bar staff were knackered!
That will be the residents happily selling food drink etc to us on the way past, personally I think that it is just an easy overtime stint, or possibly the secirity risk of having that many service peeps in a close area.
Also has the journalist who scribbled that never been to a kissball game ever.
Too right! Some bloke even invited a load of us into his flat on the way out of the game, I was bursting for a piss so went in....he reminded me of Hannibal Lector so I left sharpish!
 
#10
I've been on quite a few of the planning meetings before the game involving the security staff etc.

Obviously what we all know is that Army Navy is all about the social and not so much about the game which differs from international fixtures. Plus the fact that the vast majority are serving, in good health and out to get a skinful then it offers up a different perspective for the plod and the locals such as peeing in the streets and hanging around for a long time afterwards to carry on the motion. Most people leave the internationals after kick off whereas we generally hang around until the Corps bars etc close.

There's also the streaker element. I guess that next year the pitch will be ringed with RMP and their Navy equivalent to stop this happening. Personally I think that streaking ruins the game and belittles the sporting event, even if it is funny.
 
#11
Only bother I've ever seen there was a bootie being arrested for urinating in the street. Not a full on "Look how high my stream goes" either, it was a back to the crowd slash down a quiet side road.
 
#12
sparky8 said:
I've been on quite a few of the planning meetings before the game involving the security staff etc.

Obviously what we all know is that Army Navy is all about the social and not so much about the game which differs from international fixtures. Plus the fact that the vast majority are serving, in good health and out to get a skinful then it offers up a different perspective for the plod and the locals such as peeing in the streets and hanging around for a long time afterwards to carry on the motion. Most people leave the internationals after kick off whereas we generally hang around until the Corps bars etc close.

There's also the streaker element. I guess that next year the pitch will be ringed with RMP and their Navy equivalent to stop this happening. Personally I think that streaking ruins the game and belittles the sporting event, even if it is funny.
Do they mention who's idea it is to close the pubs?
 
#13
Yes some of the pitch invasions are a pain but you must admit Zorro was outstanding
 
#14
Yeah its the Police's idea.

We tend to hang around and fill the bars close to the station causing a problem to traffic and so the idea is that if the pubs close then the majority will leave to get a pint elsewhere.

I dont know about town but after the during the match I went to the Duke of Cambridge with a few other of the vets. That didnt close at all and seemed to have two civvy security staff (one a good intentioned but fat fugly munter in leggings!) who helped the traffic get by and herd us to safety
 
#15
I must admit to thinking that they can be a bit over the top sometimes at Army/ Navy not at all like at big international games. I've never seen any trouble at any of the games I have been to and wondered why the big presence

A Group of lads from 814 NAS went to the 95 game. We were sauntering up to the turnstiles in high mood, having been imbibing a few tinnies on the minibus. There was a bit of singing going on and we burst into the Wild Rover. Some great big tosser of an inspector with a body guard stopped us. His bodyguard was the model for Dimbleby the copper from Spitting Image. The inspector starts waving his stick at us suggesting that we shut up and stop singing rebel songs as we weren't in the right place and how would all the army lads feel who had losts mates in NI.

Now in my time in the mob and all the years I've been playing and watching rugby I have never considered Wild Rover a rebel song. I conveyed this message to the aforementioned Police Inspector who told me to "shut my F*&^king mouth". Now I suppose at this point, I should have just wound my neck in but the stupid genes in me took over. I turned around and asked the first squaddie walking past was the Wild Rover a rebel song. His reply was "Nah mate, I always sing it when I'm pi&&ed"

Queue much stifled laughter from the lads. The old bill was less than happy and resorted to if you don't shut up you won't see the game, nor will your mates. It was at this point that the Senior Pilot on the Squadron stepped in and told me to shut me gob, gave some smarmy s*&t to the copper and off we toddled.

Saw the absolute Cnut as we were driving out of the car park on the way home, leant out of the window and shouted "Thank you Constable" Miserable Plick
 
#16
sparky8 said:
There's also the streaker element. I guess that next year the pitch will be ringed with RMP and their Navy equivalent to stop this happening. Personally I think that streaking ruins the game and belittles the sporting event, even if it is funny.
Regulators working weekends??? You're having a laugh
 
#17
Saw one Regulator, one RM Military Police and two RMP lads all four were walking around with WPCs or PCSOs. Sad to say all four looked like sacks of sh1t. Not their fault just what they were wearing. None were involved with the streakers etc.
 
#18
If you take away the Monkeys and Smegulators then the Police presence is probably about the same as for an international.
I was having a chat with the Landlord of the Fox and he was saying that the Plod 'request' all Landlords to close and clear at 8pm but they can then reopen again at 9.30. I gather it's as much about freeing up the high street and getting people away in trains as anything else.
Have to agree about the streakers, one is mildly amusing but by the time you get to number 30 you've had enough. Hats off to Zorro though, he did bring a touch of panache to the art of streaking. Perhaps if the ref hadn't stopped the game every time someone snagged a fingernail those with short attention spans would have kept their clothes on.
Don't be surprised if those serving are threatened with very serious consequences if they streak next year. There were some very unamused faces after streaker number 2 or 3 on the pitch.
 
#19
Some were just poor efforts indeed, couple of funny ones running about the top stands truly giving the run around to the men in orange, but when the 5 guys with shirts off slowly ran around it was pretty lame.
 

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#20
I always thought that they put loads of police on the street to prevent anyone kicking off. Not that the police could do anything if they was a full scale riot. Although it would be funny to watch them try.
 

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