D-Day...

#1
63 years ago on the 6th (eve of the 5th) there would have been a few nerves as the chaps (and girls!) were setting of to push old Fritz out of occupied Europe...thousands boarding ships and waiting around at airfields for the go...shame that nowadays your average teenager doesn't know (or care) too much about that historic day...perhaps we should sit them all down and make them watch the movie classic 'The Longest Day' just to show them Hollywood style what the older generation did for them!

Here's to you chaps...thank you!
 

AlienFTM

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#2
... or the first 20 minutes of Band of Brothers. Make them watch it the way Kubrick inflicted aversion therapy in A Clockwork Orange.
 
#3
AlienFTM said:
... or the first 20 minutes of Band of Brothers. Make them watch it the way Kubrick inflicted aversion therapy in A Clockwork Orange.
...and equally the first 20 minutes of 'Saving Private Ryan'.
 
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fozzy

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#4
obesa_cantavit said:
63 years ago on the 6th (eve of the 5th) there would have been a few nerves as the chaps (and girls!) were setting of to push old Fritz out of occupied Europe...thousands boarding ships and waiting around at airfields for the go...shame that nowadays your average teenager doesn't know (or care) too much about that historic day...perhaps we should sit them all down and make them watch the movie classic 'The Longest Day' just to show them Hollywood style what the older generation did for them!

Here's to you chaps...thank you!
I was thinking of something similar this morning. Where I live is surrounded by disused WW2 Airfields, that were used for the Glider and Airborne Assaults during OVERLORD, MARKET GARDEN and VARSITY.

I shall be standing outside tomorrow evening thinking about what happened 63 years ago that evening.
 
#5
”63 years ago on the 6th (eve of the 5th) there would have been a few nerves as the chaps (and girls!) were setting of to push old Fritz out of occupied Europe...thousands boarding ships and waiting around at airfields for the go...shame that nowadays your average teenager doesn't know (or care) too much about that historic day...perhaps we should sit them all down and make them watch the movie classic 'The Longest Day' just to show them Hollywood style what the older generation did for them!

Here's to you chaps...thank you!”


I’m sorry, I’ll read that again. 8O

64 years ago on the 10th (eve of the 9th) there would have been a few nerves as the chaps (and girls!) were setting of to push old Fritz out of occupied Europe...thousands boarding ships and waiting around at airfields for the go...shame that nowadays your average teenager doesn't know (or care) too much about that historic day...perhaps we should sit them all down and make them read real history and take the time and trouble to seek out real Veterans instead of wasting time on Hollywood style bunk!

Here's to you chaps...thank you!


9/10 July 1943 – Allied invasion of Europe on the island of Sicily
2/3 Sep 1943 - British and Canadians of the 8th Army under Monty invade mainland Europe at Reggio di Calabria.
8/9 Sep 1943 – Allied landings at Taranto and Salerno – Salerno Beachhead not secured until the 14th, last sizeable German forces withdrew on the 18th.

No.9
 
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No.9 said:
”63 years ago on the 6th (eve of the 5th) there would have been a few nerves as the chaps (and girls!) were setting of to push old Fritz out of occupied Europe...thousands boarding ships and waiting around at airfields for the go...shame that nowadays your average teenager doesn't know (or care) too much about that historic day...perhaps we should sit them all down and make them watch the movie classic 'The Longest Day' just to show them Hollywood style what the older generation did for them!

Here's to you chaps...thank you!”


I’m sorry, I’ll read that again. 8O

64 years ago on the 10th (eve of the 9th) there would have been a few nerves as the chaps (and girls!) were setting of to push old Fritz out of occupied Europe...thousands boarding ships and waiting around at airfields for the go...shame that nowadays your average teenager doesn't know (or care) too much about that historic day...perhaps we should sit them all down and make them read real history and take the time and trouble to seek out real Veterans instead of wasting time on Hollywood style bunk!

Here's to you chaps...thank you!


9/10 July 1943 – Allied invasion of Europe on the island of Sicily
2/3 Sep 1943 - British and Canadians of the 8th Army under Monty invade mainland Europe at Reggio di Calabria.
8/9 Sep 1943 – Allied landings at Taranto and Salerno – Salerno Beachhead not secured until the 14th, last sizeable German forces withdrew on the 18th.

No.9
Yes...thanks for that No.9, but I was thinking about what we generally refer to as 'D-Day', being the hugely significant in scale, the Normandy landings...I don't understand your cynicism to my post when I was just making reference to this historic event on 6th June 1944...
 

the_boy_syrup

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#7
Most would already have had a bad day on the 4th
Given that the original date was supposed to be the 5th June for D - Day
(Dare I say again on BoB) :wink:
 
#8
Not particularly cynical about your post fat lady, after all you’re only siting one of WWII’s most popular thumbnails, maybe the most popular. No doubt you’ll be raising a glass to other such anniversaries like Coriano Ridge and Comacchio.

No.9
 
#9
I shall be raising a large glass to those brave gents and ladie swho were part of the bigest Military Operation ever laid on. They went and did a job without a 20 Min phone card each week, the EFI, no email facilities and leave was non existent all they could look forward to was relief and a brief respite when they were relieved sent to Camps for a shower and rest. Most just saw it as a means to an end and something they had to do so they could get on with the rest of their lives when peace was finally found.

"Gentlemen, despite your excellent
training, preparation and orders,
do not be daunted if chaos reigns.
It undoubtedly will"



Brig. James Hill
3 Para
4th June 1944
 
#10
obesa_cantavit said:
shame that nowadays your average teenager doesn't know (or care) too much about that historic day...perhaps we should sit them all down and make them watch the movie classic 'The Longest Day' just to show them Hollywood style what the older generation did for them!

Here's to you chaps...thank you!
Would today's molly-coddled, Big Brother watching, alco-pop swilling generation have the gonads to do what those guys did?*

A couple of years ago there was a series on Discovery channel about VC winners. One of those featured was this man;

Maj David Jamieson VC CVO

Obit

I think he got blown off the tank he mounted to direct fire at one stage. The interviewer asked him if he thought of himself as brave and he replied, "no, I'm a nervous man".


* 2(?) VCs won in Iraq answer that question I suppose
 
#11
I saw that one on Jamieson VC.


As always with these VC types he was unbelievably modest and I seem to remember he finishsed his interview with 'right i'm off for a drink' or something like that.

Quite a guy!
 

AlienFTM

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#12
obesa_cantavit said:
AlienFTM said:
... or the first 20 minutes of Band of Brothers. Make them watch it the way Kubrick inflicted aversion therapy in A Clockwork Orange.
...and equally the first 20 minutes of 'Saving Private Ryan'.
Well done for spotting my deliberate mistake, Pike.
 

Grownup_Rafbrat

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#13
big_mad_ejit said:
obesa_cantavit said:
shame that nowadays your average teenager doesn't know (or care) too much about that historic day...

Would today's molly-coddled, Big Brother watching, alco-pop swilling generation have the gonads to do what those guys did?*


* 2(?) VCs won in Iraq answer that question I suppose
Some of them would, and are. It's easy to copy the tabloid newspapers and assume that all people under 25 years old conform to that stereotype, but they don't, honest. There are teenagers who know and understand the meaning of responsibility, service, duty and patriotism, and who think about the effect of their actions on others. They possibly outnumber the kn0bheads, but don't get the publicity - no-one sells papers by printing stories about teenagers helping in the community!

And don't forget that during 1939-45 there were spivs, avoiders of work by taking reserved occupations, strikes in vital industries (mining and shipbuilding to name but two), people who injured themselves to avoid further service, and other less than noble behaviour.

It takes all sorts to make a world, and in every generation there are all sorts!
 
#14
In 1938 the veterans of WW1 were probably saying the same sort of thing about the teenagers of the day who were to become the blokes who ntook part in D Day , Arnhem, Sicily, Torch etc. Until it happens it's difficult to foresee how people will act/react.
 
#15
The press did express similar sentiments about the Teds in the 50’s, and the Mods, Rockers and Hippies of the 60’s – yet the quality of those sent to the Falklands’ in 82 was typically best of British.

Fair to note this was a volunteer force, and with mass conscription (as in WWI and II) some will find themselves in the front line who would serve better elsewhere. I think the small example of Bad Lads Army has shown what can be achieved with what we were told was the best of the worst – then that was done (more or less) 50’s style?

No.9
 
#16
How times have changed. A Canadian vetran went to France and was asked for his passport by French customs, he told him he was Canadian, wherein the Frenchman said all Canadian required a passport to enter the country. The canadian replied when he came here on June 6th and landed at Juno beach, he didnt need a passport then, and could not find a Frenchman to show it to anyway.
 
#17
In the same vein its2, when the 60th took place a few years ago a large contingent of Cdo Veterans returned, as usual, to Quistreham – OK more than usual as the readies were provided. Driving into town on the ‘big day’ for the tea-time ceremony, the police stopped the coach saying the road was being kept for Chirac. All the facts were pointed out to them, which made no difference, followed by the Veterans getting back on the bus to proceed regardless as the distance left was too far for some to march.

A gendarme put his hand on the bus, saying they could not drive into Quistreham. A member of No.3 replied; ”Look son, the Germans couldn’t stop us in 44, so you’ve got no chance.”

No.9
 
#18
I attended an all ranks gathering on the 6th of June, not as a D-Day memorial, just a gathering of the blokes. As the first round of beverages came in i said, i propose a toast to the brave and committed of 63 years ago.
I was stood with 8 - 10 people of varied rank, and received a look off at least 3 of them as if i had two heads and an i touch grannies special parts sign hung around my neck!!!!............
I felt utterly ashamed that fellow soldiers had no idea of the occasion of which i spoke. I know it wasn't a milestone anniversary i.e. the 50th, 60th etc etc, but it beggars belief!!!
Having to explain what the fook you are going on about on such an important date in our recent military history!!!!
 

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