Cyber Soldiers

Discussion in 'Int Corps' started by Strowy_123, Nov 16, 2011.

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  1. Saw this link, was wondering what job title these guys would come under, and how they got there...
    Soldier - Magazine of the British army
    i assume its a counter intelligence position though i thought id ask people with a better understanding than me
    cheers Fellas
  2. Communications Systems Engineers, and they probably drove there.
  3. A2_Matelot

    A2_Matelot LE Book Reviewer

    There is a fair smattering of trades, of all Services - but clearly for a Soldier magazine article they focussed on the RSigs, who are the majority of the Army contribution.

    I wouldn't stretch it as far as Counter-Intelligence, despite what many think a fair proportion of what they do is plain old ICS Service Management, admittedly with some very new and very useful capabilities that industry has developed that assist proactive and reactive CND.

  4. So is there a distinction between a Cyber Soldier and a Cyber Security Soldier in CND,or does one size fit all ?
  5. No-one knows. Just remember, there are £650 million reasons everybody is claiming to be "cyber" nowadays.

    There are other roles outside of Corsham. Some of them much more interesting than those.
  6. Looks like a NOC/Protective Monitoring/IDS with some Penetration Testing (fnar) thrown in. Counter-Intelligence I would guess would still be mainly in the domain of the folks North & South of the Thames.
  7. It's good for the soldiers there, as the training and experience will net them a £40K starting salary in civvie street. I'm not sure how they ended up in GOSCC, though.
  8. I think it's fair to say there is a fair bit of artistic licence in that article. If the Watchtower application they are using is the one by Cittio, they'd have more chance of monitoring any potential intrusions using the Jehovas witness magazine of the same name.
  9. 'Cyber' is like 'Int' a routine boring job carried out by people who can be replaced at the drop of a hat in the majority of cases.

    This role is nothing more than application support. Routine tasks with common tools, many of which can be obtained for free.

    Why does everyone think that everybody has to hide their ID just because they do a job?
  10. 'Cyber' the latest buzz word thrown around as 'sexy' by those normally attempting to sell something which was either supplied at a reasonable rate or in response to some alarmist clap-trap before HMG found a pot of money marked 'Cyber - Security'.

    Had a meeting today with a guy I last met 3 months ago. Then he was an Information Security Consultant on his business cards, today he is magically a Cyber Security consultant still doing the same job. Once the pot runs dry I expect he will be printing another set of cards up with some new title and will still be doing exactly the same job as me.

    Only another 15 years till I retire............ :)
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  11. I generally agree, and detest the word 'cyber', especially when it's suffixed by some military-sounding word. There really is no 'cyber war'.

    In civvie street the proper Information Security work is done at the executive level by people who know their organisation's network inside-out and where the vulnerabilities are. In fact, some of them pen-test every bit of hardware and software in a network, making damn sure nobody outside it can get past the security. They have to be skilled in networking, programming, cryptography, pen-testing, etc. and be directly involved in the design, procurement and implementation. This is what stops criminals emptying your bank account, basically.

    Anyone working in that role for a high-profile organisation is better off not revealing their name or who they're working for, as a matter of personal and operational security. Social engineering and blackmail does happen.
  12. I beg to differ, at Executive level there are good risk specialists. Technical security is delivered by an army of monkeys and the biggest risks are with people not PCs.
  13. A2_Matelot

    A2_Matelot LE Book Reviewer

    So utterly wrong.

    Whilst the guys in Corsham are in CND their skillsets are heavily developed and hence they are not so easily replaced which is why they are on longer posting cycles and their toolsets are quite unique.
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  14. A2_Matelot

    A2_Matelot LE Book Reviewer

    There isn't, it's not..