CVRT Confusion

Discussion in 'RAC' started by Listy, Jun 1, 2005.

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  1. I've a question.

    What CVRT are we useing now? Is it the Sabre or the Scimitar? and when did the other Vehicle get withdrawn from service?

    I ask becuase the Army website has the Current CVRT down as Sabre, but everywhere else they call it a Scimitar.

    Many thanks.
  2. It is SCIMITAR, sabre was withdrawn early last year .
  3. Sabre has (had) a different turret and co-ax.

    Anyone know why it got sacked?
  4. Turret was off a fox . It had a 7.62 chain gun . They got rid of them when CVR(t) was getting diesal engines .
  5. thanks very much.

    I take it all CVRT's have now been upgraded to Thermal imaging?
  6. recce cpl- any idea when FRES is coming in? rumours on the grapevine is that its going to be wheeled instead of tracked, do you know anything about this?

  7. I was told by my OC the other day (at the naafi ) that because of the army overspend etc , we will not see FRES for years and years . They will keep updating CVR(T) .
  8. Wheels are for Puff's anyway !!!!!
  9. Sorry to be pedantic but...

    CVR(T) is in fact a family of vehicles of which Scimitar is but one.

    They are:

    Sabre, Scimitar - Recce variants
    Spartan - variety of uses, i.e. Mor MFC
    Striker - Anti Tk variant
    Samson - REME Recovery Variant
    Samaritan - Med Variant
    Sultan - C2 Variant (or ice cream van!)

    See Army Web Page for details.
  10. RC, I think what you meant to say was 'they will keep CVR(T).' I don't think it has much growth potential left!

    As for wheels vs tracks. There are some very capable wheeled vehicles around these days (Patira AMV and MRAV) that will give tracks a good run for their money off road and will cream them on road. I suspect that FRES will probably end up as a mixture, depending on the cpability required.
  11. [​IMG]

    and MRAV.
  12. had the opportunity to do the trial on VERDI 2. Anyone remember that? Excellent concept, but putting it in a smaller vehicle than a gutted Warrior was the main problem, heard at the end of the trial the new recce vehicle would be a cross between VERDI 2 and whatever was 'popular' at the time(?)
  13. How the feck can you be a hybrid between tracks and wheels? Tracks on one side and wheels on the other? Or is FRES going to be a half-track? White Scout Car w/Bofors anyone?
  14. A lot of scimitars have got espire fitted now (thermal) it is a great bit of kit . What people forget about recce vehicals is that they are really a radio platform for the crew to use . A lot of the time FR regiments are dis-mounted in OP's etc . Its the crew that is the very important bit . Passing information on what it can see higher granted CVR(T) is old ( my vehicle was made when i was one ) it has been updated numerous times and there are some even newer updates knocking around Bovvy.We used it at Dogwood and it proved how good it was there . However with Bowman etc there may be problems . A lot of other countrys use wheeled vehicals . Generally they are much bigger than CVR(T) which is pretty pointless for recce and once again in our business its the guys inside / outside that matter .