CVF and Carrier Strike thread

Yarra

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It seems more plausible to me that one QEC could be spending a significant amount of time based between Duqm and Singapore, and slotting into the US cycle of Pacific CBG deployments, much the same as other RN platforms currently partake in Coalition tasking. There have been more than a couple of instances reasonably recently when the RN (and others) have been part of a USN-led CBG, the only difference would be that the carrier would have a White Ensign.
Absolutely, Duqm - Singapore AOR and around old stamping grounds IRO South China Sea.

Because this;

'The third is to help us secure our future place in the world and advance our longer-term interests. CPTPP membership is an important part of our strategy to place the UK at the centre of a modern, progressive network of free trade agreements with dynamic economies. In doing so we aim to turn the UK into a global hub for businesses and investors wanting to trade with the rest of the world.

Joining CPTPP will help us forge a leadership position among a network of countries committed to free trade and send a powerful signal to the rest of the world that the UK is prepared to champion free trade liberalisation, fight protectionism and remove barriers at every opportunity'.


I don't see too many modern or progressive trade networks in our part of the N Atlantic atm?....
 
It seems more plausible to me that one QEC could be spending a significant amount of time based between Duqm and Singapore, and slotting into the US cycle of Pacific CBG deployments, much the same as other RN platforms currently partake in Coalition tasking. There have been more than a couple of instances reasonably recently when the RN (and others) have been part of a USN-led CBG, the only difference would be that the carrier would have a White Ensign.
Plenty of talk - and already demonstrated - of USA F-35 (Marines'), using our carriers.

Is there any speculation - yet - of some of the small(er) number of F-35 that we have, deploying on/using, the USA (Marines') carriers ?!


With whatever "escort" we might have available, that would provide a significant UK "presence" when one of our own carriers was rushing around somewhere else ;) !!
 
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I wonder, is there a case for permanently basing a squadron of optionally manned bombers at Akrotiri?
With a LO design, long range and a decent payload that would give huge coverage over the entire MENA region and essentially free up the carriers to focus on the Atlantic and Indian/SE Pacific theatre...
 

Yokel

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Some time ago I decided to try to take a break from this and other RN threads - personal reasons. However, carriers and task group operations are things about which I have strong, fact based, things to say....

I don't see too many modern or progressive trade networks in our part of the N Atlantic atm?....
Maybe - maybe not, but our strategic interests are. We depend on seaborne imports and exports, and we and the other European members of NATO are separated from the United States and Canada by a large ocean, with increasing Russian submarine and air activity taking place. Chinese warships are starting to deploy to the Atlantic. Putin and Xi are allies.

Any security crisis in Europe would mean large amounts of equipment being moved by crisis response shipping. A carrier's ASW helicopters (working with frigates, RN/NATO submarines, and MPA) would be important to dealing with the submarine threat, and her jets would be able to keep hostile aircraft away.

Similar threats exist elsewhere - remember the tensions caused when the Iranians seized a tanker last year? What if they had attacked tankers with submarines or aircraft? A shrewd enemy will seek to attack where it is not expected. In 1982 the Argentine Navy did not intend to keep operations to within close proximity to the Falkland Islands, they intended to use the submarine Santa Fe to attack task force shipping between Ascension Island and the task group operating areas, until she was engaged by RN helicopters near South Georgia.
 
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I wonder, is there a case for permanently basing a squadron of optionally manned bombers at Akrotiri?
With a LO design, long range and a decent payload that would give huge coverage over the entire MENA region and essentially free up the carriers to focus on the Atlantic and Indian/SE Pacific theatre...
Up until 1974 there was a squadron of Vulcan bombers based at RAF Akrotiri with the mission in WW3 of delivering some instant sunshine to cities in Southern Russia.
 

riksavage

Old-Salt
China is ripping a page out of Mussolini’s playbook (the Mediterranean is an Italian lake etc.). South China sea being China's lake. Western powers need to stand their ground and maintain maritime freedom of movement.

Five eyes APAC maritime exercises every year with a UK carrier presence every two years makes sense to me. Fly the flag, work closely with the RAN, USN and RNZN. Involve Singapore, they're getting nervous as they host the US fleet.

Singapore’s and interesting one, dominant ethnic Chinese population heavily reliant on PRC tourism and spending power. PRC may pressure Singapore to remain neutral and kick the yank fleet out. What then? USN move to Aus or back to Subic (toms will be happy in Angeles).
 
Up until 1974 there was a squadron of Vulcan bombers based at RAF Akrotiri with the mission in WW3 of delivering some instant sunshine to cities in Southern Russia.
We have scrapped the V fleet and ALNWs, but why not use the base again for conventional bombers?
It’s in a fantastic location but the Typhoons don’t have the legs for it to dominate the western Mediterranean or eastern Arabia.
 
We have scrapped the V fleet and ALNWs, but why not use the base again for conventional bombers?
It’s in a fantastic location but the Typhoons don’t have the legs for it to dominate the western Mediterranean or eastern Arabia.
Now your talking, get some of those B-21 Raiders on order, 40 should cover it.
 

Cutaway

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Cromarty

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I am well aware of that - apologies, but I have always had an inappropriate sense of humour, it has been getting me into trouble ever since I first heard my grandma fart.
I thought it was an obvious joke. Gave me a chuckle anyway.

Oh, wait....shit, what does that say about me?!
 

Cutaway

LE
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I think he meant M3a1.... Could get a few into a C-17, easy to land from an LSD.
Wrong. No Bradley’s were harmed in his bullshit.
 

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