Everytime that labour have come into power they have screwed the finanaces and their cronies done well. Why is every one so surprised that there is such a debt. They put britian (note the small "b") on a war footing run ctbacks after cutbacks, put silly pressure due to lack of equipement on active troops, lied about circumstances and now with 10/- in the funds people are saying we want to spend £100. It cannot happen. We need to pull out of Ganny.. NOW we have lost good men for what! We are no longer a world power, yes we have good quality personnel but not enough of them. Germany was purely an occupation force, is it fair to burden (OK give them a load of our money) them with our bits that are left. I am really sad at the way hings have gone, I felt the same when things personal happened to me, however we have now just got to knuckle under and cut our loses. Bye Bye subs, nuclear things and the like, the enemy is already in the door, so what are we going to do bomb part of Peterborough or Leeds. Forget it or war is going to be on our home shores and we do not need an Aircraft carrier, or other long range kit. As long as we are in the merde then we will have to wear wellies and not Giovany shoes. PS will the last rat to leave turn the lights out, oh, thats if they have not been cut off.