Current issue combat clothing

#1
It may have been done to death before and if it has I apologise.

I have noticed that the new batches of Jacket, Combat, Lightweight, Woodland DP have the Union flag pre-sewn on. Great you you cry, however all I have seen so far have been sewn on in an extremely strange position. Plus the quality of the stitching is bobbins.

If the sleeve were to be pressed with a crease opposite the sleeve seam the flag would be at least and inch and a half forward nearly on the front of the arm! Another example of trying but not quite getting it?

Anyone else noticed this?
 
#2
I have also noticed this, but not just on the shirts and jackets of green kit, but on dessies as well
 
#3
An inevitable result from placing the contracts with sweat shops in Nodoshistan and the like, where the pieceworkers have to sew on a flag a minute to make their 50 cents a day pay.
 
#4
MoD being seen off again.
 
#6
PassingBells said:
Keeps the RSM in a job though.
Oh thats nice! Can I give him my shirts and so on to get the badges sited correctly?
 
#7
There's also a problem with Cadets being issued kit with flags on, when it's supposedly against the rules for cadets to be wearing it. You'd expect if they decided to supply them with it on, someone would take 5 mins to check it's in the right place.
 
#8
its not really a problem jamah just cut it off.......unless you want to MOD to change its supply system and contracts just to suit the cadets :!: :!:
 
#9
Yeah I wasn't complaining, it just seems to be one of those extra **** problems we encounter during life. 99% of people in the ACF don't have a problem with cadets wearing them and then along comes some twat who spends twenty minutes explaining how we could be confused with regular soldiers and mistreated.
 
#10
Jamah said:
Yeah I wasn't complaining, it just seems to be one of those extra **** problems we encounter during life. 99% of people in the ACF don't have a problem with cadets wearing them and then along comes some twat who spends twenty minutes explaining how we could be confused with regular soldiers and mistreated.
and whats wrong with a little maltreatment? Does em good, get down in that mud pool and give me twenty!!
 
#11
Jamah said:
Yeah I wasn't complaining, it just seems to be one of those extra **** problems we encounter during life. 99% of people in the ACF don't have a problem with cadets wearing them and then along comes some t**t who spends twenty minutes explaining how we could be confused with regular soldiers and mistreated.
It has been quoted elsewhere on this site, that HQ Land have in fact authorised the ACF/CCF to wear the union flag on the left arm.
 
#12
Yep, in our unit they issued us our kit, got us to wear it for all of 1/2 an hour and then but out boxes to be sent of to the tailors. Got them back still looking like thay had been sown on by a blind man but in roughly the right place (I don't think RSM doubled up as a tailor) 8O .
The sharp ones amougst you will realise that JACKET FIELD, Woodland, Disruptively Patterned also shares this problem. :roll:
 
#13
eegeek said:
Yep, in our unit they issued us our kit, got us to wear it for all of 1/2 an hour and then but out boxes to be sent of to the tailors. Got them back still looking like thay had been sown on by a blind man but in roughly the right place (I don't think RSM doubled up as a tailor) 8O .
The sharp ones amougst you will realise that JACKET FIELD, Woodland, Disruptively Patterned also shares this problem. :roll:
Lucky it's OK on the hooded smock. ;)
 
#14
Its not even just 3rd world tailors. Guys from my unit put stuff in to be tailored for the SCOTS amalgamation and you should have seen the state of it as it came back... TRFs halfway round the arms and such. Most of the guys have had to pick it off and re-sow it.
 
#15
General Melchett said:
It may have been done to death before and if it has I apologise.

I have noticed that the new batches of Jacket, Combat, Lightweight, Woodland DP have the Union flag pre-sewn on. Great you you cry, however all I have seen so far have been sewn on in an extremely strange position. Plus the quality of the stitching is bobbins.

If the sleeve were to be pressed with a crease opposite the sleeve seam the flag would be at least and inch and a half forward nearly on the front of the arm! Another example of trying but not quite getting it?

Anyone else noticed this?
Yeah, it was an absolute bugger but as I had a new bde flash to stitch on too I just unpicked it and stitched it on in the right place.

The funny bit is seeing some of the recruits ironing their crease in through the flag resulting in a forward facing crease :twisted:
 
#16

Percy_Pigeon

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#17
General Melchett said:
It may have been done to death before and if it has I apologise.

I have noticed that the new batches of Jacket, Combat, Lightweight, Woodland DP have the Union flag pre-sewn on. Great you you cry, however all I have seen so far have been sewn on in an extremely strange position. Plus the quality of the stitching is bobbins.

If the sleeve were to be pressed with a crease opposite the sleeve seam the flag would be at least and inch and a half forward nearly on the front of the arm! Another example of trying but not quite getting it?

Anyone else noticed this?
This matter can be resolved quite easily WINGE and WINGE some more.

I sit as the bloke that reviews all Defect Reports (Official Whinges).

Its in JSP 336 Vol 12 Part 3 Annex A to Section 1 (MoD Form 1197 Defect Report).

The field ARMY averages about 2 reports a month and the feedback i have recived is that it is too much trouble.

But unfortunately if i don’t have examples I cannot take the IPT to task (so to speak).

So whinge away and don’t take no for an answer from your QM’s dept.

Please PM me with any examples but I cannot act without a formal submission.

Baby rant over, I’m nice really
 
#18
General Melchett said:
It may have been done to death before and if it has I apologise.

I have noticed that the new batches of Jacket, Combat, Lightweight, Woodland DP have the Union flag pre-sewn on. Great you you cry, however all I have seen so far have been sewn on in an extremely strange position. Plus the quality of the stitching is bobbins.

If the sleeve were to be pressed with a crease opposite the sleeve seam the flag would be at least and inch and a half forward nearly on the front of the arm! Another example of trying but not quite getting it?

Anyone else noticed this?
I have just got myself a C95 Combat shirt, owing to the fact I have it on borrow from someone who was either binned or has not come back at all.. Lucky for me he was the same size as me.. Anyway the union jack was sewn-on the back-to-front around not to mention, (and now this all sounds like bull) but it really was turned 90 degrees in the wrong direction!

So now I also have correct seams in my combat shirt as I could have done them inside out and 90 degrees in the wrong direction, Just for a laugh but I did not want to look even more like a mong then I think I already do, LOL!!

Lucky for me I had a handy Housewife kit!

**I mentioned this to an NCO and he had a right laugh about foreigners doing the work!!
 
#19
eegeek said:
The sharp ones amougst you will realise that JACKET FIELD, Woodland, Disruptively Patterned also shares this problem. :roll:
& its not made ripstop anymore :pissed: ! cheap skates!

who ever decided the text they put on cs95 clothing labels, if I ever get hold of the d###, I'll take great peasure in beating him to death with a field jacket! the amount of cadets I have had to explain to that they are wearing a shirt & not a jacket.
the scene:
several decembers ago, on a rather gibbering shooting wk'end on RAF St Athan, cdts line up outside the range, waiting to be put into training groups & firers. cdt pratt :smurf: (name changed from stupid little d### to save embaressment), standing there, shakeing more than a jelly in back of landy going cross country, wearing a t-shirt & '95 shirt. 'wear's your jacket ', says I. pratt:'this is it sir', pratt pointing to his chest. at this point me gets a give me f###ing strengh look on my face & I say 'thats a shirt mate'. 'no its not its a jacket sir'. 'eh, think you'll find its a shirt' replies me. 'it says jacket on the label so it must be a jacket sir', says pratt.
I reply 'despite what the label says,its a shirt. its december, about 2 deg C, you are a funny shade of blue & shivering more than an arctic explorer, all of which proves its a shirt, you need to engage your brain, switch on & get into the weapon trg room before you die of hypothermia!

exit cdt pratt stage left, leaving me to berry my forehead into my palm & think of thoughts like why am I here, & a lot of expletives!

now, lets go over this again, this is a shirt, this is a f###ing field jacket!!!!!!!!!!
how many times I have had to explain the differance in the past few years ................


rant over.

5.56, you weren't at St Athan a few years ago were you ...............? :D
 

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