Current Body Armour - Your Experiences

#1
Hi Guy's

My name is Chris and i am currently a Engineering Design Student at Coventry University. I looking at redesigning the body armour worn by you guys with the aim to protect your arms and legs possibly.

What i am after is your experiences of body armour to help me with the designing of product. Along with suitable improvements which you require.

Thanks for your time

Please contact me on

furnissc@coventry.ac.uk
 
#3
Good on you Chris...

Nice to see a civvy on the plus side and I hope your research produces some useful food for thought.

Remember mobility is increadibly important... if you get too heavy and can't do anything after leapfrogging for a hundred meters then you'd be better off starkers. The spine (heart) and skull are the only things that are going to get you deaders before you can say "ouch" so there has to be priority in whatever you're designing. I don't know much about traumatic amputation but that might lead you to up-priortise the joints... anyway good luck.
 
#4
Whilst slightly off topic, (this is the NAAFI after all) do any of you old sweats remember the original flak jackets issued for NI?
The ones we received in 73 had a post card in the pocket asking the wearer to post it back to the makers if they got hit wearing it, the questions continued to ask if the hit was fatal!?!
Tossers!
 
#5
Guy's

Thanks for your blogs. They are all really helpful with my report. What I am currently writing is a research report on the current body armour. Once my report is near completion I will post a copy of the abstract on the forum for you to discus. Please pass the forum details and my email address on to friends and family who are in the armed forces. The more people who I can speak to the better my report will be.

Ideally I would like to borrow a Combat Vest for a few days to understand what they are like to wear.

Please keep responding on the forum

Thanks

Chris
 
#6
Buddy the body armour we get on Operations is brand new.It has saved lives already .Its called Osprey and I doubt very much that you will be able to get hold of a set.Its a little heavy but you get used to it.As a poster has just said ,you have to have mobility otherwise we would all be patrolling in Kevlar suits.Another factor is the heat , on Telic 8 we had tempretures of in excess of 55 degrees.So you can imagine how un-comfortable that was in Body-armour.I wish you look however I think you are about one year too late.
 
#7
I was on my way home last night and started thinking about your project. I thought it might be worth your while to do some historical research:

It would be interesting to know the fatality cause data (heavy bullet 10g+, light bullet, fragmentation, blast, poetry) - including the location on the body. If you know what kills most it could change the way you look at the design.
 
#8
Thanks for your response.

I am currently investigating two new ideas which have been recently discovered which could dramaticly reduce the weight. It is currently going through testing at the moment. One of these uses a coated kevlar which is around 20% lighter and is really flexible.

So it will be lighter, provide better protection and give you more mobility.

I hope this clears some of your suspicions about my report and possible design.

I realise that your mobility is greatly important - The current ideas i have got are related to designing it for the arms and legs (possibly in the clothing)
 
#9
Chris,

is your work linked in any way to the Future Integrated Soldier Technology (FIST) or Personal Equipment and Common Operational Clothing (PECOC) programmes?


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#10
Chris.

You have 2 parallel threads running on the same topic. This has drawn more responses, so I am not sure whether you saw my comments on the Defence Clothing and Textiles IPT on your other thread. I really do suggest that this is your best route to get hands-on and discuss past, present and future body armour.

PM me if you want contact details.
 
#11
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No my work is not linked to the FIST or PECOC programmes. As part of my course i have to write a research report about a problem and invesitgate solutions to the problem. I was watching the news and saw a piece about the CBA (current body armour) and the problems.

I hope this clears a few things up.

Chris
 
#12
Chris,

Have you spoke to anyone at the Defence College of Management and Technology/Cranfield University?

They may be able to help.
 
#13
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I haven't contacted any one yet at either the Defence College or Cranfield University - but i will try and give them a call regarding my work etc... this week

Thanks

Chris
 
#15
Chris, you tried speaking to someone in Bicester DLO, as a military woman with slightly larger than average breasts but a fully fit and active soldier(ie I m not a fat munter lads before you start) they made a set before I deployed to Iraq. We spent a couple of weeks going through different designs, types, shapes etc with civvie and military designers A very careful process that resulted in a set made to measure and holds the girls in without preventing me getting in the prone position comfortably. Be worth speaking to the ladies who actually make it. They are looking after us well.
 
#16
FoxyBrown said:
Chris, you tried speaking to someone in Bicester DLO, as a military woman with slightly larger than average breasts but a fully fit and active soldier(ie I m not a fat munter lads before you start) they made a set before I deployed to Iraq. We spent a couple of weeks going through different designs, types, shapes etc with civvie and military designers A very careful process that resulted in a set made to measure and holds the girls in without preventing me getting in the prone position comfortably. Be worth speaking to the ladies who actually make it. They are looking after us well.
Any chance of going once round the paddock on you then? Purely for research of course :lol:
 
#17
"as a military woman with slightly larger than average breasts but a fully fit and active soldier(ie I m not a fat munter lads before you start)"

Prove it. Piccies in the gallery, if you please.
 
#18
Gentlemen, the topic here is CBA and not my udder size nor my lack of being beaten with the ugly stick. I would prove it however much as I do enjoy a bit of stick, the variety of stick I m much more interested in is not the sharp witted evil tongue of my colleagues once a picture is posted (but the wide girthed type) I would even go as far as pm ing you a pic but I am new to this game and my circle of trust is not yet stretched enough to accomodate one of you (never minid both).
 
#19
Hi folks,
I am in the process of leaving the service after 20 years (yes I gave up the pension! (another story)).
In my last job I worked with several people on our side who design the CBA and all the other items like ballistic goggles etc.
They do a very good job and welcome feedback via the chain of command,
If you really want to contribute make sure your voice is heard by the DLO. The office was going to be scrapped at one point last year but pressure has won the day and the office still carries on its good work.
Its not easy keeping everyone happy, with mobility and protection, but its better than the stuff I was issued in 86 in NI!
On a side note, it can save lives (I know some that it has) but it is impossible to cater for every situation or threat (unfortunatly I have experience of that too (RIP all of you especially my sister).
Regards.
 
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