Cumbria PCC wants taxpayers to fund more Police Officers

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Cumbria’s Police and Crime Commissioner Peter McCall is asking the people of Cumbria if they are willing to pay more to help maintain local policing services, retain the additional 25 police officers he secured this year, and recruit an extra 20 police officers in 2019.

Sparking ahead of the launch of the consultation, Peter McCall said:

“The last thing I want to do is to propose an increase in Council Tax Precept, and none of us likes to see an increase in what we pay, but I do have to be honest and realistic about funding the force, and without this increase in precept we simply will not keep up with increasing demand or inflation. Working with the Chief Constable to determine the operational Police requirement, I am proposing to increase council tax precept for 2019/20 by £2 month for a band D property.

“The additional revenue will allow us to build on the investment we have already made in our policing service and maintain the additional 25 police officers, who are already making a real difference in pursuing criminals and will continue to work proactively in your neighbourhood policing teams. It would also allow us to recruit another 20 officers, giving us even more ability to tackle serious crime, dealing with the issues which matter most to you in your local area – including preventing anti-social behaviour and unsafe driving, looking after children and vulnerable people, investigating serious crime and county lines and tackling serious and persistent offenders.

“Without the increase in precept there would be no other alternative other than to reluctantly reduce police officers numbers which is not in anyone’s interest or safety. I hope that you will agree with me that it is worth paying a bit more to keep Cumbria as one of the safest places to live in the Country.

So, what are your thoughts? Do we already pay more than enough for our Police service? Or, are we not getting value for money?
 
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And what guarantees are there that these extra resources won't, eventually, be hoovered up by the Home Office's national policing priorities?
 
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Personally speaking, I'd be happy to pay extra for policing. Provided that it was ring fenced for policing.
 
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Cumbria’s Police and Crime Commissioner Peter McCall is asking the people of Cumbria if they are willing to pay more to help maintain local policing services, retain the additional 25 police officers he secured this year, and recruit an extra 20 police officers in 2019.

Sparking ahead of the launch of the consultation, Peter McCall said:

“The last thing I want to do is to propose an increase in Council Tax Precept, and none of us likes to see an increase in what we pay, but I do have to be honest and realistic about funding the force, and without this increase in precept we simply will not keep up with increasing demand or inflation. Working with the Chief Constable to determine the operational Police requirement, I am proposing to increase council tax precept for 2019/20 by £2 month for a band D property.

“The additional revenue will allow us to build on the investment we have already made in our policing service and maintain the additional 25 police officers, who are already making a real difference in pursuing criminals and will continue to work proactively in your neighbourhood policing teams. It would also allow us to recruit another 20 officers, giving us even more ability to tackle serious crime, dealing with the issues which matter most to you in your local area – including preventing anti-social behaviour and unsafe driving, looking after children and vulnerable people, investigating serious crime and county lines and tackling serious and persistent offenders.

“Without the increase in precept there would be no other alternative other than to reluctantly reduce police officers numbers which is not in anyone’s interest or safety. I hope that you will agree with me that it is worth paying a bit more to keep Cumbria as one of the safest places to live in the Country.

So, what are your thoughts? Do we already pay more than enough for our Police service? Or, are we not getting value for money?
The county already has a great lump of the CNC based there. A bit of cross force cooperation should sort it - been done loads of times before...

Officers were seconded to Cumbria Constabulary as support during the floods of 2009.

On 2 June 2010 27 CNC officers were deployed to assist Cumbria Constabulary in the manhunt for the gunman Derrick Bird. Along his route across West Cumbria, Bird killed 12 people and injured 25.[23]
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The county already has a great lump of the CNC based there. A bit of cross force cooperation should sort it - been done loads of times before...



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Shame it doesn't happen in the next county down! I arrested a shoplifter at 1310 today and then had to wait until 1615 with said smelly scrote before a member of Lancashire's finest made an appearance. I accept that nicking speeding toddlers and banging up the occasional naughty vicar takes time, but are we expected to do every part of their job for them? Next time I phone them to say we've nicked someone, will they ask me to book them into Preston's hotel for the terminally light-fingered?
 
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Shame it doesn't happen in the next county down! I arrested a shoplifter at 1310 today and then had to wait until 1615 with said smelly scrote before a member of Lancashire's finest made an appearance. I accept that nicking speeding toddlers and banging up the occasional naughty vicar takes time, but are we expected to do every part of their job for them? Next time I phone them to say we've nicked someone, will they ask me to book them into Preston's hotel for the terminally light-fingered?
Maybe they were all too busy to attend? Going to lectures on british imperialist history, or the latest rantings from the LGTQDUEXYZ community.
 
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This type of funding is happening up and down the country, a tax increase by stealth. If the Council Tax raises by more than 3% the Local Authority Council has to hold a referendum on the increase.

However the Police and town council can raise to local precept by more than 3%.

The result is Local Authorities are handing back some services to Towns & Villages, eventually LA`s will only deliver Statutory Services (Social Services, Health, planning etc)

However the little emperors in the Town Council here seem to think that it is a good idea

Archie
 
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... from the LGTQDUEXYZ community.
Reported for blatant Bi-ism... you missed at least 'B' out of your alphabet you Bi hating bigoted bastard.

Oh, they were all at the thrice weekly diversity classes and were thus a bit to busy to deal with a smelly straight shoplifter in the care of Inbred Central's finest.
 
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Cumbria police have just spent a fortune on of new vehicles (loadsa BMW's included, natch...) & their efforts to address rural crime have been, shall we say "less than robust".
Remind me how many days on average was it to grant/renew FAC's last year...?
 
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He is asking for a rise in the precept. This is a contribution you pay as part of your Council Tax to your local Parish/Town Council who will spend it supporting the local community. It is not available to the Home Office.
 
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Gwents PCC has gone and done exactly that.
As an organisation they are about as much use as tits on a fish.
Same in Derbyshire. Our PCC & CC are away with the fairies

We'll simply create more specialist squads on the back of any funding increase. The reality is the front line will he plundered yet again as 30 to 40 year old sex cases are far more important investigations than spending time investigating aggravated house burglary, high value vehicle theft, town centre violence oh and day 1 bread & butter training school fare, the thef act. We're far too important to deal with theft.....

Lions led by donkeys as someone of note opinioned many moons ago...
 
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Seconded. The Wilts PCC is a turd that just won’t flush: all virtue signalling, no action. How many beat bobbies can we have if we ditch the politicised, useless PCCs?
Spot on. A P&CC ‘earns’ on average around £165k pa. Most of them employ a support team, consisting of a deputy (or two, depending on the size of the County) each on around £65k pa: then add in the cost of vehicles and drivers (chauffeurs actually, pretentious twats that they are) and it all adds up to a pretty hefty annual wedge that could have been better spent on front line policing. Mag to grid the lot of them, after all, they are just another layer of political red tape.
 
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Seconded. The Wilts PCC is a turd that just won’t flush: all virtue signalling, no action. How many beat bobbies can we have if we ditch the politicised, useless PCCs?
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