Cruise Ship attacked by pirates

#1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/4409662.stm

Looks like some people got more than they bargained for. One quick question immediately springs to mind though, regarding the Somali's skills. How do you go, in just 12 years, from being able to take out the tail rotor of a Blackhawk with an RPG to being unable to hit the side of a cruise ship with one?

Also, WTF were they doing off the coast of Somalia anyway?
 
#3
Playing Pirates :lol:
 
#4
100 miles off shore is a fairly long way..........

I've always said a Cruise Ship would be a very good target - full of rich influential people... can't go wrong from a targeting perspective. You don't have to sink one either... Just make a nice black mark on the side somewhere and the press will do the rest.

The Cruise ships are the airlines biggest customers... when the cruise industry takes a hit, so do the airlines - it all goes downhill from there!!!



.
 
#5
Somalia will lose out ultimately :roll:
how could that country be so fcuked up ?
 
#7
it may be a good idea to stock weapons, AKs, RPGs , Bazookas in a secure lockable cabinet for the crew to use in self defence, which i think would be ok as they are in International waters therefore not under any Govt national gun laws, to use in self defence against such pirates.

what do you guys think ?
 
#8
I think that it's marvellous in these insipid days of Health & Safety-inspired medicocrity that a free-born Englishman can book a bracing holiday on the ocean wave and spar with pirates, easily the most romantic criminals on God's earth.

As long as they had parrots, cutlasses and dodgy West Country accents, that is.

V!
 

Purple_Flash

ADC
Moderator
#9
Once upon a time we had a Navy that could strike fear into the hearts of pirates. Now, we have a Navy that, like the army, has had its heart ripped out by the cuts of a thousand civil servant cutlasses.
 
#10
semper said:
it may be a good idea to stock weapons, AKs, RPGs , Bazookas in a secure lockable cabinet for the crew to use in self defence, which i think would be ok as they are in International waters therefore not under any Govt national gun laws, to use in self defence against such pirates.

what do you guys think ?
Sensible idea.

U.S. Constitution, Art I, Sec. 8, expressly authorizes Congress to issue "letters of marque and reprisal" commissioning private citizens to eliminate pirates on the high seas and other such pests.
 
#11
Isn't it true that you may apply to carry weapons, if you happen to be sailing in International Waters, for use in a situation such as the one above?
 
#13
semper said:
it may be a good idea to stock weapons, AKs, RPGs , Bazookas in a secure lockable cabinet for the crew to use in self defence, which i think would be ok as they are in International waters therefore not under any Govt national gun laws, to use in self defence against such pirates.

what do you guys think ?
Some of the privately owned ones do carry SMG's (although the ones I know about were more worried about piracy around Indonesia than Africa C.1996)
 
#14
It's an American ship. That's one of the dodgiest stretches of water in the world for piratical naughtiness outside of the straits around Malaysia, Indonesia and the Philippines. It's also likely (without going into OPSEC too deeply) that the big bangs used by the crew were very effective. In deterring further activity by the bad guys.
 
#16
.S. Constitution, Art I, Sec. 8, expressly authorizes Congress to issue "letters of marque and reprisal" commissioning private citizens to eliminate pirates on the high seas and other such pests.
I wonder if there is a similar document in the Admiralty Act?

NWD , are you suggesting, that private US citizens, could in fact purchase a suitable vessel (I favour an Elco 80' meself- They were expendable) and go tooling about the place in distant climes armed to the teeth and keeping sea lanes open , funded by Private ventures such as Shipping companies, Governments and Port Authorities?



Photocopyright http://www.ptboats.org

Perhaps with letters of Marque to board, search and sieze suspected pirate vessels, and to make them prize?

What a very excellent idea, sign me up me hearty yo-ho.
 
#17
PTP - I believe national law applies aboard civvy vessels. Hence UK laws apply to UK shipping. Even Royal Fleet Auxillary vessels, which are owned by the MOD, have legal restrictions as to what their merchant seaman crews may do. Normal mechant vessels are legally the same as any other UK civillians.

When needed, force protection is provided for RFA and strategically important merchant ships by the General Service Seaman (Reserves) branch of the Royal Naval Reserve, of which I happen to be a member. Not enough of us to go round though..........

PS Hitting a small fast moving small target with a rifle whilst standing on the deck of a moving ship - yoou might want to think about that.
 
#19
Minigun - excellent. Which is why they are being fitted to RN ships and RFAs. The rate of fire is good for breaking up any explosive laden boats.

Won't let us RNR types use them though, you're doing well if you can get a GPMG course.
 
#20
I was just going to say a Bofors , Goalkeeper , or twin Oerlikons should fit the bill nicely.

But what would stop any Government empowering Private individuals to undertake Armed naval patrols on their behalf?
 

Similar threads

Latest Threads

Top