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Croydon shooting

Just on the BBC. According to the local Labour MP, Sarah Jones (Shadow Police Minister), Croydon is a wonderful, friendly diverse community. Hmm.

Riiiight

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, went to "meet and greet" the suspect.

”meet and greet“ is for receptionists at restaurants, the fact they were dealing with someone found with handgun ammunition on him should have alerted the Police to the reality this was a very serious villain they were about to interact with, not some cheeky little Delroy from the Ends.
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
Just on the BBC. According to the local Labour MP, Sarah Jones (Shadow Police Minister), Croydon is a wonderful, friendly diverse community. Hmm.
Really? So the gang fights between Eastern Europeans observed by a former colleague of mine who lives just behind the law courts never happened then?

Croydon was well on the way to being a pit when I worked there 25 years ago. It was even faster down that road when I had a night out there 10 years back. The redevelopment board must have been mighty busy since then - that, or she's talking utter cock.
 
Really? So the gang fights between Eastern Europeans observed by a former colleague of mine who lives just behind the law courts never happened then?

Croydon was well on the way to being a pit when I worked there 25 years ago. It was even faster down that road when I had a night out there 10 years back. The redevelopment board must have been mighty busy since then - that, or she's talking utter cock.


can you imagine an MP, any MP saying '"This place is a dump full of ******* criminals, now enough about Westminster, Croydon isn't any better"
 
Really? So the gang fights between Eastern Europeans observed by a former colleague of mine who lives just behind the law courts never happened then?

Croydon was well on the way to being a pit when I worked there 25 years ago. It was even faster down that road when I had a night out there 10 years back. The redevelopment board must have been mighty busy since then - that, or she's talking utter cock.
My bad

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No, you're right, I can't. However, it's also possible to not say anything.


A simple statement (cos they have to say something) along the lines of "it's a terrible incident, our heartfelt condolences ' blah blah

or as it's a labour MP - blame the jews
 

FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
Book Reviewer
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
Edmund Burke

However, Burke was not advocating mindless action for the sake of action and in order to feel better.

If you can't articulate precisely what you intend to do, the effect you expect to achieve by doing it and the basis on which you believe that your expectations of success are reasonable, it's in everyone's interests, including yours, that you sit down and have a cup of tea.

If it turns out that the police did not proceed with the required rigour for fear of the consequences, and I can't imagine any other explanation given that a firearm was involved, I would point out that that is not a mindset created overnight and that the process to achieve that level of intimidation in public servants requires a well-resourced, effective and sustained lobbying effort over a considerable period of time. That will not be overturned overnight and the same politicians currently shedding crocodile tears will be at the front of the mob if there is the slightest hint of over-reaction from the police. Further, some poor sod just trying to make things better is likely to find himself chucked under the institutional racism bus by his CoC.

It's taken years to get us to this state and it will take years to recover from it. It will, however, take even longer if the creatures who've systematically de-powered the police, together with their hangers on, are given a series of easy wins because the rest of us can't be bothered to engage our brains and exercise a bit of self-discipline with regard to how we respond.
 
Croydon was well on the way to being a pit when I worked there 25 years ago. It was even faster down that road when I had a night out there 10 years back. The redevelopment board must have been mighty busy since then - that, or she's talking utter cock.
She was ticking so many boxes in order to not cause any offence (to the usual suspects), I almost filled my bingo card. Which was pretty impressive for an interview lasting only a few minutes!
 

Cold_Collation

LE
Book Reviewer
She was ticking so many boxes in order to not cause any offence (to the usual suspects), I almost filled my bingo card. Which was pretty impressive for an interview lasting only a few minutes!
ETA. I’ll refrain from any further Political point scoring out of respect for the dead officer and his family. Tragic, particularly as he was so close to retirement. RIP.
A deluded idiot who's a part of the problem, then.

I offer this:
 
Apparently perpetrator was on "terrorist" watch list

"The suspect who shot a police sergeant dead at Croydon Custody Centre was known to counter-terrorism police, it is reported.
The 23-year-old was on the specialist unit's radar in the past, according to the BBC
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But the Metropolitan Police has not commented and refused to be drawn on the claim when contacted by Mirror Online."
 
She was ticking so many boxes in order to not cause any offence (to the usual suspects), I almost filled my bingo card. Which was pretty impressive for an interview lasting only a few minutes!
Bad form to quote my own post, but for now I’ll refrain from any further political point scoring, out of respect to the deceased officer and his family. Particularly tragic as he was so close to retirement. RIP.
 
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I can just read the BBC headlines now -

'Police officer who failed to take the knee despite Brexit and Tory cuts, injured in largely peaceful arrest'

FTFY
 

In_Twists

Old-Salt
Mr. Phillips is wrong - most of society wants these scrotes searched to sub-cutaneous levels all the time, constantly so they end up giving up. I, for one, don't mind a bit of collateral damage - can't be done otherwise, it's impossible - do the best to keep it to an absolute minimum, but don't let it be the reason why things aren't done to protect wider society.

I agree 100%
There must be a mission statement, and then all actions thereafter must lead to fulfilment of that mission.
Q 1. What do you want to achieve?
Q2. How will you do this?

So you search someone and they're clean. So what. Do you give up because you didn't find what you're looking for? or are you glad you checked?
 
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