Cross Channel Migrant Issue

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Awol

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and that dear chap, is 100% our self generated problem.

as my Brother found when he moved to France, all official Government documents comes in French, (He asked at the Maire For an English version of his carte de sojour form, didn’t end well) can’t speak and read French, oh dear.
I lived in France for six years, up until a couple of years ago. Not once did I ask for, or expect, anything in any language other than French.
 

ROMFT

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I lived in France for six years, up until a couple of years ago. Not once did I ask for, or expect, anything in any language other than French.
Which is a bummer for the Bretons, Basques & even still some Occitane.
I did 4 vendanges (wine grapes harvest) for a Occitane farmer, I spoke better French than him.
 

Joshua Slocum

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Would it not be a far better idea to employ our high tech specialists in the doughnut, to monitor mobile phone use,and find the common denominators
all of the migrants have mobile phones
they all use mobiles to communicate with each other and back home
the smugglers text them with details of times and locations
surely most of the little electronic pulses point one way
then use the heavy mob to round them up and remove their assets
also I think we need a far better system for immigrants to fingerprint them photograph them DNA them , and ascertain country of origin
work out how many are the usual criminal elements looking for easy pickings and how many wish to work and contribute to society
and give them the option to work legally, but provide them with accommodation and food
the real problem is sorting out why so many come here and to other countries
Sicily is really suffering under the influx
we need to stablise their countries and help them to return and re build them
 
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we need to stablise their countries and help them to return and re build them
Good luck with that in regard to Africa and the Middle East. We have only been trying for the last 50 years to no effect spaffing away much blood and treasure.

We need to fortify our borders both in the UK and Europe and leave these people to sort out their own problems.

In 1962 South Korea was one of the poorest countries in the world, together with Sudan and Eithiopa. It was under a military dictatorship with a hostile enemy on its borders. North Korea was actually richer because all the industry and minerals were in the North. All the South had was its people.

In 2020 South Korea has one of the highest GDP's and standard of living in the world in the world despite having to spend a large chunk on Defence. It is a full democracy with equal rights for women and minorities and has a first class health service. All achieved through the hard work of its people.

It will be no suprise to learn that Sudan, South Sudan and Ethiopa are still amongst the poorest countries in the world.
 
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well, would you open fire on, or swamp a boat with children aboard?
Would you put children in this situation where they are in open boats in the channel in the first place? No. I assume that you wouldn't. So why should the moral responsibility for their safety be down to us?
 
The only way that this situation will be stopped, is that as soon as they are landed by whoever at the Kent coast, they are put straight back on a boat to France/Belgium.
That will require new laws and the extensive changing of current legislation.
Oh, and the dismantling of a whole industry around the Strand and Temple areas of central London dedicated to getting and keeping them in the UK.
Not too many of them in those boats will have the dosh to pay out for a second and third go.
 

Sexton Blake

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Yay! Way to get the working class voter on side.

Just how massively stupid are the labour apparatchiks?
Exactly, they must think the majority of the UK are a bunch of mindless proles; a 10 year old could have put together a better 'letter' than that.

They slag off 'divide and rule' yet employ it themselves. They state that the UK ......"should provide safe and legal routes to people"..... etc, etc without acknowledging that there are already 'safe and legal' protocols in place to avoid becoming an illegal immigrant. Employing obscurantism against the Govt's dealing of Covid. I could go on.

I truly cannot believe that a major UK political party that once had some of the finest orators and minds are at this shite level.

I detest everyone of the useless twats.
 
I lived in France for six years, up until a couple of years ago. Not once did I ask for, or expect, anything in any language other than French.
and here in Englandshire, my nearest big city on the south coast, has a huge self inflicted cost to itself and takes great pride in supplying Material in many different languages, the main ones being, Arabic, Bengali, Chinese, Czech, Farsi, French, German, Hindi, Kurdish, Italian, Polish, Portuguese, Punjabi, Russian, Spanish, Thai, Turkish, Urdu and Vietnamese
 
small private pleasure craft only have to notify customs if they either/or arrive from a non EU country, or are carry goods for which duty is payable, or are carrying restricted items.

so, unless you are smuggling excess fags or an AK47, cast off in votre dinghy sur la plage et avez un Bon voyage a Grand Bretagne. Les authorities couldn’t give un care less.

now, once we leave the EU, yes, then you can require all and any boat to report it’s arrival. But as for some perverse reason, unlike say the French, we don’t register everything that floats and who owns it, bit pointless really. .’is this your boat mate? ‘Never seen it before Rozzer’
Indeed they do at the moment. The Key being from no EU. I've written a couple of stories not published on the ramifications of customs work. But lets be fair when we were younger some would head for the first rubber ring shop that could be found at the seas side but it was always on the understanding they were for Local use largely for kiddies and there was was always some fuel caught on a Lilo and I'm not crass enough to blame every Frog for everything.

But that never stopped the average yachtee from popping orf to the Continent and laying in cheap booze for crawling round the Cote Azur and the returning with a cherubic grin on his/her face as they had nothing to declare on their return "ahem". TBF Marinas were not first port of call with existing staff. "One trusted one's betters in those days" fools of tooks as we were.
But to give it another slant. Two Rozzers crossed my morning walk yesterday and they were monitoring the misuse of a No left turn. Far too parochial to pop into the local Marina and inspect the comings and goings. But then that's not their job is it and "we only do things when intelligence says we should" rather sums it all up. It's all a bit NAAFI.
 

syrup

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and here in Englandshire, my nearest big city on the south coast, has a huge self inflicted cost to itself and takes great pride in supplying Material in many different languages, the main ones being, Arabic, Bengali, Chinese, Czech, Farsi, French, German, Hindi, Kurdish, Italian, Polish, Portuguese, Punjabi, Russian, Spanish, Thai, Turkish, Urdu and Vietnamese

My doctors in York you tap the screen with DOB and your name and it books you in as an arrival.
There must be three to four screens with all sorts of nice flags on until you get to the Union Flag for English.
Polish lad I knew was making £40 an hour working for the NHS as a translator.
 
I have to say- in my part of the world in England - the 2nd / 3rd 4th & 5th generation of those who also speak Urdu / Punjabi and Bengali are quite protective of this "England" as it is and are none too pleased with 'incomers' - who want something for nothing coming in...especially...if they are from their own same heritage.

It does cause quite a bit of friction and- you'd be surprised how patriotic some can be when it comes to 'pulling up the drawbridge.'
 
Indeed they do at the moment. The Key being from no EU. I've written a couple of stories not published on the ramifications of customs work. But lets be fair when we were younger some would head for the first rubber ring shop that could be found at the seas side but it was always on the understanding they were for Local use largely for kiddies and there was was always some fuel caught on a Lilo and I'm not crass enough to blame every Frog for everything.

But that never stopped the average yachtee from popping orf to the Continent and laying in cheap booze for crawling round the Cote Azur and the returning with a cherubic grin on his/her face as they had nothing to declare on their return "ahem". TBF Marinas were not first port of call with existing staff. "One trusted one's betters in those days" fools of tooks as we were.
But to give it another slant. Two Rozzers crossed my morning walk yesterday and they were monitoring the misuse of a No left turn. Far too parochial to pop into the local Marina and inspect the comings and goings. But then that's not their job is it and "we only do things when intelligence says we should" rather sums it all up. It's all a bit NAAFI.
What did you learn in your time in Customs?

Surely you should know that - if ever in doubt - fault can be laid firmly at the feet at the french - and they have never let us down on that score. They never fail to demonstrate themselves and their gallic-induced ineptitude.

Born to be 'put to the sword'.... I'm mean look at their ambassadors that they send here.... on arrse even!... @Sixty (soixante) for example.

Apols to those chaps with the berets on wrong way on here but - you're not 'proper' french anyway - you ran forwards ;)
 
The only way that this situation will be stopped, is that as soon as they are landed by whoever at the Kent coast, they are put straight back on a boat to France/Belgium.
That will require new laws and the extensive changing of current legislation.
Oh, and the dismantling of a whole industry around the Strand and Temple areas of central London dedicated to getting and keeping them in the UK.
Not too many of them in those boats will have the dosh to pay out for a second and third go.
I live in Westminster North, and do a bit of volunteering.

Time and again, I hear people – in official positions, who should know better – witter on about “the homeless on our streets”.

There is never a reference to the fact that a tiny percentage are actually from Westminster and nearby boroughs (clearly the Romanian gypsies are not).

They don’t seem to get a very basic point: house these, and there will be double/treble to take their places… it will be never ending.
 
They don’t seem to get a very basic point: house these, and there will be double/treble to take their places… it will be never ending.
That's when they start wibbling on about the percentage of land that is actually built on in the UK and how we've got loads of space to build on to house all and sundry. Not taking into account much of it is fertile arable or grazing land which we actually need to grow food on, as well as habitats for the wildlife that they pretend to care about when the fox hunting and game shooting issue is raised, and a lot of it is also mountains and flood plains that you can't build on anyway!
 
My doctors in York you tap the screen with DOB and your name and it books you in as an arrival.
There must be three to four screens with all sorts of nice flags on until you get to the Union Flag for English.
Polish lad I knew was making £40 an hour working for the NHS as a translator.
it’s quite astonishing, isn’t it? my little village is whiter than snow whites derrière, it doesn't do diverse much, not because it’s a bastion of Engerland nationalism, it’s just the way it played out - it’s an expensive place to live, but that’s pretty much it. But go into the GPs surgery, full of twin set and pearls middle England, and it’s like a UN convention hall, everything in a myriad of languages, most of which have never been heard in the area. I do find it amusing that under diversity rules, I’m classed as an ethnic minority and can ask for translation services and documentation in Irish, a language I haven’t spoken in 50 years and is now pretty incomprehensible to me.
 
That's when they start wibbling on about the percentage of land that is actually built on in the UK and how we've got loads of space to build on to house all and sundry. Not taking into account much of it is fertile arable or grazing land which we actually need to grow food on, as well as habitats for the wildlife that they pretend to care about when the fox hunting and game shooting issue is raised, and a lot of it is also mountains and flood plains that you can't build on anyway!
until more housing is needed for the regional housing plan. We are a village of 12,000, all around us was formally green land, now? @3,000 new houses in the first tranche, 7,000 in total over the next decade, more than doubling the population and turning us into a small town. Everything they build is sold off plan, almost every house in the village that comes up for sale is bought by developers and converted into HMOs
 

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