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Cross Channel Migrant Issue

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Ah, you see, what nation wants unidentifiable craft in their waters. It’s a fundamental security risk. We of course would not dream of intercepting craft in French waters As that is a French job. course there is a simple answer. It used to be called report inwards, which all Yachtees of a certain age will remember report inwards. HBM’s could refuse to accept non conforming vessels. So you see, we don’t have to rescue unless there is an imminent threat to life. That’s why the French are escorting...not rescuing. But if the French are stating no British ships in French waters..... fine they are implying that the only vessels available for rescue in French waters must be French. They are losing the argument.
We have already seen a climb down by the French over the imminence of a deal rather than waiting to January. But the weather is worse then, so fewer crossings. If the French are refusing returnees, then we should use titfor tat for French nationals requiring to stay in the U.K.
moreover 60 million is a paltry sum to ask for to augment French security. It is therefore a token designed to throw the problem onto the U.K. Unidentifiable craft who have no reasonable reason for entering U.K. waters can be turned back. What is unenviable is that it leaves cutter commanders in the position of determining when rescue is required. Time to be hard nosed.

When did small craft have to report themselves when cutting about in the Channel waters?
There is not requirement to call CG or DHM with details unless you intend to get in someones way… like a day boat escorting a cross channel swimmer.
 
some really are Doctors


My father had a heart attack a few years ago.

The Registrar looking after him was a pleasant and competent man from Gabon.
The only problem was: we couldn’t understand a bloody word he said!
 

Joker62

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Book Reviewer
Had the old two wheeler down the likes of Crystal Palace, Sydenham and Catford on Sunday afternoon – spot the Englishman
Should've waved, I was in Catford on Sunday.
 
They are kicking off about her she's too white and privileged and not picking them up and providing a taxi service.


We wokey Mark Matthews confusing tourist destinations with war torn countries
It's France you geographically challenged fuckwit

Good of Mark to mention the skin colour of the presenter – for the benefit of his Braille reader, one supposes
 
No, but having a good mate who spent a lot of time in prison alongside Somalis there are some issues. One is their casual attitude to what we would regard to be extreme violence - as well as their attitudes to 'honour' and what justifies/requires extreme violence. Another is that many are happy inside the prison system because, well, it ain't Somalia.

That doesn't make for some comfortable neighbourhoods here, and it needs to be acknowledged.

My understanding is the Eritreans have little time for the Somalis
 

syrup

LE
Until recently, a central Glasgow hotel was another possibility, until one of the teachers/engineers got a bit stabby


A hotel IIRC costs about £150 a night for non dinghy dwellers to live in.
Not the fines but good access to the town centre and other establishments.
Breakfast isn't too bad either

Not good enough for our new incomers though
 
When did small craft have to report themselves when cutting about in the Channel waters?
There is not requirement to call CG or DHM with details unless you intend to get in someones way… like a day boat escorting a cross channel swimmer.
Prior to 1993 all vessels had to report in for customs and immigration purposes. Crew lists and bonds, firearms maintained aboard had to be declared. Vessels requiring cargo clearance had to present certificates And pay light dues. These days most of the positioning is computerised
 
G4S, Serco, Sodexo, all a bunch of incompetent cuts, does the government really think they are getting financial efficiency using these sort of companies, or is it the promise of kickbacks & well paid pseudo-jobs that wins them the contracts.
Don't talk to me about Sodexo, and it's a long time since i was actually in the forces.

I've only got experience of working for G4s, so I can only blame them for all the worlds ills.
 
Prior to 1993 all vessels had to report in for customs and immigration purposes. Crew lists and bonds, firearms maintained aboard had to be declared. Vessels requiring cargo clearance had to present certificates And pay light dues. These days most of the positioning is computerised

small private pleasure craft only have to notify customs if they either/or arrive from a non EU country, or are carry goods for which duty is payable, or are carrying restricted items.

so, unless you are smuggling excess fags or an AK47, cast off in votre dinghy sur la plage et avez un Bon voyage a Grand Bretagne. Les authorities couldn’t give un care less.

now, once we leave the EU, yes, then you can require all and any boat to report it’s arrival. But as for some perverse reason, unlike say the French, we don’t register everything that floats and who owns it, bit pointless really. .’is this your boat mate? ‘Never seen it before Rozzer’
 
No need to worry about that go back a couple of pages there are interviews in the papers with illegals telling the journo's that if they aren't allowed to sail into England they'll sling their wives and kids overboard and drown them.

Get what we want or else.
Let them do it.
 
Which would have exactly as much effect as the entreaties to the GBP not to panic buy.

Your average British punter in the UK will do (or not do) exactly what they think best suits them.
Won’t be long before some old fart unlimbers that rifle then.... oooh the outrage.
 

Joshua Slocum

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Book Reviewer
Doesn't appear that they are noticing anything these days.
If as you say they notice you pissing up against a tree how come they are failing to notice hundreds of people gathering waiting for boats.
The boats have to be taken there and there appears to be 15 - 20 boats a day being driven to sites offloaded and sent on there way.

Seems to me someone is missing quite a bit or turning a blind eye
many of them are moving up to Belgium now and transiting through the other ports
 

ROMFT

Old-Salt
Another point that I made on a similar thread several years ago is that the people smuggling is not without huge cost to the countries of origin. The smuggling costs take huge amounts of money from societies that can ill afford it, it takes fit and healthy working age people away from where their countries need them, and I imagine the smuggling gangs are involved in other crimes.

Doing nothing is a no win situation. We need to be firm, but humane, in accordance with British values.
Exactly, & to my mind the biggest argument for bringing the whole Exodus to Europe (not just the UK) saga to an end.
It’s like what happened in the Irish Free State/Republic for 60+ years, all the young emigrated & the ruling cliche was happy to see them go, all the pressure for change went with them & those that remained became the ruling cliche's next generation. It wasn't until the emigration stopped that the political scene changed & took the ROI into the modern world.
While the dispossessed of all these countries see their hope in emigration to the West there is no hope of change in these sh@tholes.
Not to mention the hundreds, if not thousands of millions of £/€/$ that end up in the hands of criminals & terrorists instead of being used to build something in the countries of origin.
 
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