Cross Channel Migrant Issue

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It was Blair who decided to do away with the 7 year restriction on freedom of movement to work that the rest of the EU imposed with the exception of Sweden and Ireland. Only 13,000 are expected to come they projected.

He also did away with Treason.

The treasonous , war- mongering, lying bastard
 

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It was Blair who decided to do away with the 7 year restriction on freedom of movement to work that the rest of the EU imposed with the exception of Sweden and Ireland. Only 13,000 are expected to come they projected.
Only two countries in the entire EU implemented the seven year restriction. Germany and Austria. Every other EU member went earlier by a varying degree.

Funnily enough, it was Maggie Thatcher who originally advocated accessing the East European states by promoting their membership of the EU because she wanted to form close alliances with those states.
 
Only two countries in the entire EU implemented the seven year restriction. Germany and Austria. Every other EU member went earlier by a varying degree.

Funnily enough, it was Maggie Thatcher who originally advocated accessing the East European states by promoting their membership of the EU because she wanted to form close alliances with those states.
Ah, I see, its all Maggie's fault and the evil Tories. Do you do a bit of writing for the Guardian as well?
 

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Ah, I see, its all Maggie's fault and the evil Tories. Do you do a bit of writing for the Guardian as well?

Not presently but I’m thinking about it! :)
 

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Are you seriously going to blame Blair's decision on Thatcher?
I’m saying seriously that Thatcher is just as responsible for Eastern European immigration into the UK as any other Prime Minister from that era when the inclusion of those states was first discussed.

Blair made that decision at that time. It was going to happen at some stage regardless.
 
I’m saying seriously that Thatcher is just as responsible for Eastern European immigration into the UK as any other Prime Minister from that era when the inclusion of those states was first discussed.

Blair made that decision at that time. It was going to happen at some stage regardless.
I'm genuinley embarrassed for you.
 

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it’s a normal tactic of champagne socialists, all the while claiming that Labour is for the working class… I really do despair at how some in Labour think so little of working people.
Well if that’s the case, it’s evident that you hardly ever think about it then.

Take the blinkers off and look at this government and tell me they are for the working class.
 

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Funnily enough, it was Maggie Thatcher who originally advocated accessing the East European states by promoting their membership of the EU because she wanted to form close alliances with those states.

I really fail to see what such information has anything to do with this thread (Cross Channel Migration Issue) which is about the illegal immigrants entering the UK
 

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I'm genuinley embarrassed for you.
Why?

I’m not Heath, Thatcher or Blair and I didn’t personally encourage what happened or make any of those decisions.

I’m just telling it how it was!
 
Well if that’s the case, it’s evident that you hardly ever think about it then.

Take the blinkers off and look at this government and tell me they are for the working class.

Apologies if you have done this before , but you really have to define what you mean by Working Class now, today.

Because it sure as hell is not the same definition as when you .... eg joined up ?
 
Why?

I’m not Heath, Thatcher or Blair and I didn’t personally encourage what happened or make any of those decisions.

I’m just telling it how it was!
We can at least agree that you're not any of the leaders you named. Kudos on admitting you didn't encourage the Blair government to make those decisions on migration. You seem to struggle with the concept of leadership. Blair was in power when the decision was made. He had a choice. None of the previous PMs forced him.
 
Well if that’s the case, it’s evident that you hardly ever think about it then.

Take the blinkers off and look at this government and tell me they are for the working class.
OOOOOO 'take the blinkers off'...FFS are you 10. many in this government are sadly not very conservative much like Blair was accused of being blue labour, he wasn't. He was and is still a global socialist like most socialists they despise the working class be they blue or white collar.

I’m saying seriously that Thatcher is just as responsible for Eastern European immigration into the UK as any other Prime Minister from that era when the inclusion of those states was first discussed.

Blair made that decision at that time. It was going to happen at some stage regardless.
To go slightly off thread.

That you consider that Blair's Labour government was going to sell the UK down the river, all the while blaming Thatcher is typical, Thatcher saw opening trade up to the Eastern Europe as a way of stabilising post soviet rule, also the EU was already starting to fracture because of Thatcher not being in favour of the Maastricht treaty which was the start of open borders.

Your correct that many in this government sadly do not consider the working class as well as they should, they are the one who would sit happily with Blair. Far to many are more concerned about global impacts rather than this nation.

But you stick to waving the red rosette, screeching about how terrible capitalist companies are. Just remember when the labour supported communists come for private property be it an individuals house or a Ltd companies wealth, your in the frame too.


Back on thread, it has been reported that just 100 odd landed today to sup from the public purse.
 

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We can at least agree that you're not any of the leaders you named. Kudos on admitting you didn't encourage the Blair government to make those decisions on migration. You seem to struggle with the concept of leadership. Blair was in power when the decision was made. He had a choice. None of the previous PMs forced him.
I see the big picture. All that’s happened is that policy has been implemented at the appropriate stages.

For many years, policy on EU membership was pretty unanimous across the two principle political parties.

Hence what happened. For various reasons, that’s changed and so the world carries on.
 
it’s a normal tactic of champagne socialists, all the while claiming that Labour is for the working class… I really do despair at how some in Labour think so little of working people.

Stealing from the Aberfan disaster fund, was a real low for a Labour government, the working class can kiss their arse
 
I see the big picture. All that’s happened is that policy has been implemented at the appropriate stages.

For many years, policy on EU membership was pretty unanimous across the two principle political parties.

Hence what happened. For various reasons, that’s changed and so the world carries on.
Big picture? Hence what happened? ....comedy gold.
How far away do you want to move the focus away from the Blair government?
What part of his decision are you struggling with?
 
One thing not taught in our schools to our next generations is that we have given up our rights to arm ourselves - to protect our families.

Yes - we can grab a pot,or pan, or kettle and swing it at someone breaking into our house (as long as you can persuade the Judge you believed he/she/it was going to harm you/ yours)
But you can't take a pot,pan, kettle outside to protect yourself just in case - it is now provocative, in fact - an offensive weapon.

Knife ? 3" and with a good reason to carry - you may have a just cause.

Firearm ? Hahaha forget it.
You are the criminal if you use it to protect yourself , or your family, in this country.

My point being ......


Are our elected masters doing a good job protecting us - or a sh1t job ?

Remember - it is their first responsibility.

Knives longer than 3" can be legally carried in public.
 

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Big picture? Hence what happened? ....comedy gold.
How far away do you want to move the focus away from the Blair government?
What part of his decision are you struggling with?
You'll get a reply along these lines:

"Quick, look over there !
There's something really interesting you'll want to see.
Look now !

(If I'm not here when you look back don't worry, it just means I was right all along.)
"
 

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