Cross Channel Migrant Issue

[syrup]

That’s complete and utter tosh.

Private companies routinely sent representatives to East European countries to recruit staff.

I recall a story of a bus firm, it might have been Stagecoach, winning a contract to run bus routes in Norwich and sending a recruitment team to Poland to recruit drivers despite there being PSV drivers available for work living in Norwich.

The Labour Party sending teams to East Europe to get people to emigrate to the UK is quite simply nutters giving themselves a handjob at the prospect of getting people to believe such a stupid story!

I worked with a large 3PL company who recruited in Eastern Europe for drivers
He had Polish and other Eastern speaking girls in the office who handled all their paperwork
His systems in the trucks translated their work to their native language
He had bought houses all round his depots and rented them rooms out
They were probably on 50p more than the minimum wage and he got a lot of that back off them in rent


I've worked on fridges as a driver and it's not just farms you go to where there are portacabins with overseas workers living in them.
I used to deliver every Sunday tomatoes from Holland to a company in the North West.
There would only be 1 or 2 English speakers on site on the manual work was all done by Easter Europeans.

 

[Teeblerone]

Labour sent people to refugee camps around the world handing out visas to come to Britain like confetti. In one instance, IIRC some 15,000 visas were handed out in one camp.

Behave! what camp, where, when, who and was in the papers, or 'remembered'?

 

[rgjbloke]

I worked with a large 3PL company who recruited in Eastern Europe for drivers
He had Polish and other Eastern speaking girls in the office who handled all their paperwork
His systems in the trucks translated their work to their native language
He had bought houses all round his depots and rented them rooms out
They were probably on 50p more than the minimum wage and he got a lot of that back off them in rent


I've worked on fridges as a driver and it's not just farms you go to where there are portacabins with overseas workers living in them.
I used to deliver every Sunday tomatoes from Holland to a company in the North West.
There would only be 1 or 2 English speakers on site on the manual work was all done by Easter Europeans.

I don’t doubt it one single bit but it wasn’t the effing Labour Party that recruited them was it!

 

[Cutaway]

RAF Colitshall is now HMP Bure, a sex offenders prison & has been for many years.

Even when it was RAF Coltishall.

 

[syrup]

I don’t doubt it one single bit but it wasn’t the effing Labour Party that recruited them was it!

Where did I say it was?

 

[medwaymud]

You’ve got to be kidding. I wouldn’t expect the telegraph to tell the truth if the editors nuts were in a crusher with Jeremy Corbyn holding the handles.

I think The Telegraph has changed course ( closer to what it used to be )

Used to buy it 75 -95 ...but then it started to lose its way.
Gave up on every paper for a while - then emigrated for 10 years and read Ekathimerini - or really tried to.

Have a look at Planet Normal online.
It may not be socialist enough for you - but they talk some sense.

 

[Stan_Deesey]

That’s complete and utter tosh.

Private companies routinely sent representatives to East European countries to recruit staff.

I recall a story of a bus firm, it might have been Stagecoach, winning a contract to run bus routes in Norwich and sending a recruitment team to Poland to recruit drivers despite there being PSV drivers available for work living in Norwich.

The Labour Party sending teams to East Europe to get people to emigrate to the UK is quite simply nutters giving themselves a handjob at the prospect of getting people to believe such a stupid story!

I heard that there was a clause in European employment law that allowed UK companies to waive the UK minimum wage for EU employees who were recruited directly from their home countries, as the minimum wage of the country in which they were recruited would then apply.

There was even a British bus company that established a driver training school in Warsaw or Krakow, and trained Polish drivers to UK PSV standards before sending them over to Britain.

I also heard about a bus company in South Wales recruiting drivers directly from Lithuania and Latvia, although there were plenty of local people who wanted the work. This was on BBC Radio back in about 2012 or 2013.

I agree with your last sentence though.

 

[par avion]

I don’t doubt it one single bit but it wasn’t the effing Labour Party that recruited them was it!

No, they just made it possible.

 

[Le_addeur_noir]

Behave! what camp, where, when, who and was in the papers, or 'remembered'?

From what I remember in one of the broadsheets when labour was in power.

I did a quick search, but couldn't find anything.

By their own admission from the 2004-205 timeframe, Labour were advocating unlimited immigration. Blunkett was one of the first to announce this before he has to resign over one of the corruption scandals he was involved in.

 

[par avion]

I worked with a large 3PL company who recruited in Eastern Europe for drivers
He had Polish and other Eastern speaking girls in the office who handled all their paperwork
His systems in the trucks translated their work to their native language
He had bought houses all round his depots and rented them rooms out
They were probably on 50p more than the minimum wage and he got a lot of that back off them in rent


I've worked on fridges as a driver and it's not just farms you go to where there are portacabins with overseas workers living in them.
I used to deliver every Sunday tomatoes from Holland to a company in the North West.
There would only be 1 or 2 English speakers on site on the manual work was all done by Easter Europeans.

The thing was that after six months they were entitled to familly tax credits, housing benefits, child allowances, etc etc. The British tax payer was subsidising employers paying the minimun wages to foreign workers. And they still wonder why Brexit happened? Labour - the party of the working class. What a laugh.

 

[Teeblerone]

'pics or it never happened' etc.
People do fling figures about in several threads with no sources.

 

[rgjbloke]

From what I remember in one of the broadsheets when labour was in power.

I did a quick search, but couldn't find anything.

By their own admission from the 2004-205 timeframe, Labour were advocating unlimited immigration. Blunkett was one of the first to announce this before he has to resign over one of the corruption scandals he was involved in.

Source!

 

[par avion]

'pics or it never happened' etc.
People do fling figures about in several threads with no sources.

Are you referring to the post about 'Boris's balls' old chap, or have you posted in the wrong thread?

 

[medwaymud]

From what I remember in one of the broadsheets when labour was in power.

I did a quick search, but couldn't find anything.

By their own admission from the 2004-205 timeframe, Labour were advocating unlimited immigration. Blunkett was one of the first to announce this before he has to resign over one of the corruption scandals he was involved in.

Cnut couldn't see the writing on the wall.

 

[rgjbloke]

The thing was that after six months they were entitled to familly tax credits, housing benefits, child allowances, etc etc. The British tax payer was subsidising employers paying the minimun wages to foreign workers. And they still wonder why Brexit happened? Labour - the party of the working class. What a laugh.

These weren’t Labour Party rules. They were EU rules!

We joined the EU in 1973. Edward Heath was the prime Minister of the UK.

What a laugh!!!

 

[Teeblerone]

Are you referring to the post about 'Boris's balls' old chap, or have you posted in the wrong thread?

oh good god, no! I feel nauseous already
I shold've not tried to be a smartarse and said 'post sourc es, not guesses' or something glib like that

 

[par avion]

These weren’t Labour Party rules. They were EU rules!

We joined the EU in 1973. Edward Heath was the prime Minister of the UK.

What a laugh!!!

It was Blair who decided to do away with the 7 year restriction on freedom of movement to work that the rest of the EU imposed with the exception of Sweden and Ireland. Only 13,000 are expected to come they projected.

 

[MuddyOldEngineer]

You’ve got to be kidding. I wouldn’t expect the telegraph to tell the truth if the editors nuts were in a crusher with Jeremy Corbyn holding the handles.

Any thoughts on Jack Straw's admission?

Labour made a 'spectacular mistake' on immigration, admits Jack Straw

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[medwaymud]

These weren’t Labour Party rules. They were EU rules!

We joined the EU in 1973. Edward Heath was the prime Minister of the UK.

What a laugh!!!

Which the Party in power at the time had to be seen to evolve its National Laws to be compatible with.

We have 35+ years of Laws we have to examine and amend where necessary.

 

[MuddyOldEngineer]

It was Blair who decided to do away with the 7 year restriction on freedom of movement to work that the rest of the EU imposed with the exception of Sweden and Ireland. Only 13,000 are expected to come they projected.

As per the article with Jack Straw I linked to

"Thorough research by the Home Office suggested that the impact of this benevolence would in any event be 'relatively small, at between 5,000 and 13,000 immigrants per year up to 2010'. Events proved these forecasts worthless.
"Net migration reached close to a quarter of a million at its peak in 2010. Lots of red faces, mine included."