Critically ill man 'former Russian spy'

Yes, watching the early news reports I was tremendously sympathetic towards the stricken Salisburians who seemed to have been rendered gibbering, dribbling, babbling fools by the nerve agent’s malign influence.
Then I realised that this was their natural state. Maybe they should have a snort of the old nerve gas on the basis that two negatives make a positive.
Can I just say in my defence, although Salisbury is now my local town, I was actually born a few miles from Sellafield, so I am perfectly normal! :smile:

Edited to add: Great to hear the Police Sgt has been released from hospital and is now continuing his recovery at home with his family. I wish him a complete recovery, if that’s possible.
 
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I use to drive by the cold research unit on a regular basis.... and I use to get colds on a regular basis, even after it had closed down..... spooky.
 
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I use to drive by the cold research unit on a regular basis.... and I use to get colds on a regular basis, even after it had closed down..... spooky.
You ought not to drive around in just your thong.....
Perv!
Anyhow.....Reportes eh?
This morning it kicks off with the reporter in the rear seat of what may have been some MPV, very secretive and all that. Muted tones " This retired scientist( who worked allegedly on Russion chem warfare stuff) has asked us specifically not to come to his house...quite understandable bla bla. We are off to meet him at pre arranged place"
Bla bla. Q the Pink Panther theme.
And so they did. On a flippin' beach in full view, in broad daylight as blatantly as you like. No smudge faces or voice masking,who then confirmed he was "in the right place at the right time"...and assured everyone our two victims will expire when taken off life support..."they will not survive" according to him.
Oh dear. He ain't going to be popular.
 
You ought not to drive around in just your thong.....
Perv!
Anyhow.....Reportes eh?
This morning it kicks off with the reporter in the rear seat of what may have been some MPV, very secretive and all that. Muted tones " This retired scientist( who worked allegedly on Russion chem warfare stuff) has asked us specifically not to come to his house...quite understandable bla bla. We are off to meet him at pre arranged place"
Bla bla. Q the Pink Panther theme.
And so they did. On a flippin' beach in full view, in broad daylight as blatantly as you like. No smudge faces or voice masking,who then confirmed he was "in the right place at the right time"...and assured everyone our two victims will expire when taken off life support..."they will not survive" according to him.
Oh dear. He ain't going to be popular.
Him? Or have I blown his 'cover'? 'Russia's novichok programme exists, I worked on it,' scientist tells Sky News
 
Good man. Thats the very fellow.
It's such an utterly stupid thing to do......is there a whiff of Kremlin sponsored wind up....eg see how our shit is so lethal? The guy is a scientist ffs. Or was.....
:) Bizarre tbh. ‘I don’t want to be picked up outside my house but you can film me on the beach next to a landmark and this is my name and this is what I did up to ‘93 i.e. after the fall of the Soviet Union’
 
:) Bizarre tbh. ‘I don’t want to be picked up outside my house but you can film me on the beach next to a landmark and this is my name and this is what I did up to ‘93 i.e. after the fall of the Soviet Union’
Possibly a case of "The government knows/can find out easily enough anyway, but I don't want my neighbours to know"
 
Possibly a case of "The government knows/can find out easily enough anyway, but I don't want my neighbours to know"
Maybe. I was thinking more of keeping his wife (presumption I know but logical) out of it.
 
What exactly are the long term effects of a nerve gassing on the human body?
Off the top of my head, without looking anything up I would imagine permanent, widespread neurological damage (both to the central and peripheral nervous systems). If the Skripals aren’t in an induced coma then I think their current state probably answers your question.
 
What exactly are the long term effects of a nerve gassing on the human body?
Well as the short term effects usually include death, I presume a lot of people will be keen to find out....
 
The alleged former scientist in the Sky News piece had, according to the report, accidentally contaminated himself with the agent.

And he's still alive & kicking umpteen years later.
Now, call me cynical, but if I were a state government investing in nerve agent research and production, I'd be expecting the boffins to produce something that would actually kill large quantities of enemy very quickly, not something that the same boffin can be exposed to and still yack about it in his retirement?

This alleged agent hasn't, so far as we've been told, killed anyone yet, almost a month after being used.
It cannot be, by definition, a military grade nerve agent, because so far it's failed all the requirements for such.

More concerning, perhaps, is how it got into UK, or, worse, if it was manufactured here by hostile intelligence services?
Either way, Amber Rudd's empire seems to have failed miserably, again, in protecting Britain's borders.
Why is she still in office?
 
This alleged agent hasn't, so far as we've been told, killed anyone yet, almost a month after being used.

It cannot be, by definition, a military grade nerve agent, because so far it's failed all the requirements for such
Based on the Court report, they in all likelihood would be dead if not treated so quickly and in a hospital: The Secretary of State for the Home Department v Skripal [2018] EWCOP 6 (22 March 2018)
e) It is not possible to say when or to what extent Mr or Ms Skripal may regain capacity.

f) Both are currently in a physically stable condition which is not expected to change in the immediate or near future.

g) They are both being treated on the basis that they would wish to be kept alive and to achieve optimal recovery and the treatment currently being given is aimed to achieve that.
 

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