Critically ill man 'former Russian spy'

I suspect that mr.Putin will remain at power much longer than many expect. in 2024 'most likely' current PM and former president Medvedev will be 'elected' and mr.Putin will be just a PM but effectively the main decision maker.
So up to 2030 mr.Putin will be at power. In 2030 he will be 'only' 78. He could be 'elected' - why not? What will happen in 2036 only God knows.
And dribbling propaganda dogs like you will continue to support the thieving, murdering little thug until he dies, leaving your scrapyard of a country with no clear succession, and a totally debauched election system.

It will be the Year of the Three Emperors all over again, until the biggest oligarch gangster seizes power over the corpses of his competitors.

If you are really lucky, it will be that psychotic mobster in Chechnya who Putin uses for his wet work.
YarS/Grey Fox will probably be working for him.
 
Media reporting that the US Secretary of State has signed off on a determination that the Skripal nerve agaent attack violated international law, and that this will lead to new sanctions.
Trump administration to hit Russia with new sanctions for Skripal poisoning
Senator Paul delivers letter from Trump to Putin
It does ‘fly in the face’ of Trumps letter delivered today by Sen Paul:
“I was honored to deliver a letter from President Trump to President Vladimir Putin’s administration. The letter emphasized the importance of further engagement in various areas including countering terrorism, enhancing legislative dialogue and resuming cultural exchanges,” Paul wrote in a Twitter post.

The White House said Trump had provided Paul with a “letter of introduction” for his trip at the senator’s request.

“In the letter, the president mentioned topics of interest that Senator Paul wanted to discuss with President Putin,” White House spokesman Hogan Gidley said in a statement.
Paul has also pledged to block any new sanctions against Russia
 
Media reporting that the US Secretary of State has signed off on a determination that the Skripal nerve agaent attack violated international law, and that this will lead to new sanctions.
Trump administration to hit Russia with new sanctions for Skripal poisoning
From the US Department of State statement quoted by CNBC:
"Following the use of a 'Novichok' nerve agent in an attempt to assassinate UK citizen Sergei Skripal and his daughter Yulia Skripal, the United States, on August 6, 2018, determined under the Chemical and Biological Weapons Control and Warfare Elimination Act of 1991 (CBW Act) that the Government of the Russian Federation has used chemical or biological weapons in violation of international law or has used lethal chemical or biological weapons against its own nationals.

"Following a 15-day Congressional notification period, these sanctions will take effect upon publication of a notice in the Federal Register, expected on or around August 22, 2018."
 
We are a very patient nation . We will wait.
It is quite possible that as a result Russia will be under rule of such a nationalist strongman that mr.Putin would be recalled in Western capitals as liberal supporter of democracy and human rights.
 
It is quite possible that as a result Russia will be under rule of such a nationalist strongman that mr.Putin would be recalled in Western capitals as liberal supporter of democracy and human rights.
It is. That is the sadness of it all.

We now have , it seems , an evidence set. It also seems this is sufficient to request an extradition that will not occur.

It just gives another tick in the box to suggest that Russia is not to be trusted. This is why I said we are a patient nation and can wait.

Any denial of extradition and any refusals either under Putin or some other man says to us to isolate said nation.

If YarS were reading this, he would come up with something about killing us all. However, the Sergei collective is a little more worldly wise. Further economic isolation and denial of business will further compound problems in development Russia has had, possibly as a result of the great hollowing out of the technical and thinking classes since Stalin's terror and casualties in WW2. You country actually needs us. If it behaves like the schoolyard bully, it will continue to slip in development terms, affecting the lives of its people. For some reason. I care about this.
 
It is quite possible that as a result Russia will be under rule of such a nationalist strongman that mr.Putin would be recalled in Western capitals as liberal supporter of democracy and human rights.
Ah, but that's the Big Lie that Putin tells the Russians, isn't it, liar?
"Stay loyal to Putin. The next bastard will be worse".
"Change is bad. Stay with the Strong/Dear Leader.-if you know what's good for you."

It is the core of the North Korean style personality cult he has been building for years.

And you lap it up. Some of the KGB Collective knows it is shit, but still pretends to believe it.
Indoctrinated savages like @Grey Fox actually DO believe it.
 

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Always keep a hold of nurse for fear of finding something worse. Even if there is a big bad bear in the nursey outfit.
 
It is quite possible that as a result Russia will be under rule of such a nationalist strongman that mr.Putin would be recalled in Western capitals as liberal supporter of democracy and human rights.
Worse than Putin?

Someone worse than pushing the boundaries of A5? Who is (‘Highly likely’) responsible for ordering CBRN attacks on another country’s soil? Who supports the use of CW by allies by use of repeated vetoes? Who actively pushes agitprop to his own country and abroad? Who stokes nationalism in his country irrespective of the consequences? Who orders widespread hacking and attempts to influence the democratic process in other states? Who rattles his sabre at former members of the Soviet Union? Who starts wars in neighbouring country's and steals their land? Who denies responsibility at the drop of a hat as he lies through his teeth? Who blatantly with his ‘crooks and thieves’ steals $Bn’s from the coffers of the state he runs? Who manipulates his own political process to continuously stay in power offering a ‘fig leaf of democracy’? Who ‘bumps off’ or imprisons on trumped up charges any and all opposition? Who changes history books on a whim downplaying Soviet atrocities? Who authorises the murder of any and all internal investigative process into the regimes actions?

Unless you lot vote for or have a coup by Ghengis Khan who actually starts an overt war, you’d have a hard job in beating the actions of Czar Vlad and his cronies.
 
It is. That is the sadness of it all.

We now have , it seems , an evidence set. It also seems this is sufficient to request an extradition that will not occur.

It just gives another tick in the box to suggest that Russia is not to be trusted. This is why I said we are a patient nation and can wait.

Any denial of extradition and any refusals either under Putin or some other man says to us to isolate said nation.
How it is possible to isolate Russia? Maybe you propose embargo for oil/gas import from Russia?
 

seaweed

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In a political vacuum the nastiest and least scrupulous have the advantage.

Putin is a pussy compared to Stalin.
 
Worse than Putin?

Someone worse than pushing the boundaries of A5? (1) Who is (‘Highly likely’) responsible for ordering CBRN attacks on another country’s soil? (2) Who supports the use of CW by allies by use of repeated vetoes? (3) Who actively pushes agitprop to his own country and abroad? (4) Who stokes nationalism in his country irrespective of the consequences? (5) Who orders widespread hacking and attempts to influence the democratic process in other states? (6) Who rattles his sabre at former members of the Soviet Union? (7) Who starts wars in neighbouring country's and steals their land? (8 ) Who denies responsibility at the drop of a hat as he lies through his teeth? (9 ) Who blatantly with his ‘crooks and thieves’ steals $Bn’s from the coffers of the state he runs? (10) Who manipulates his own political process to continuously stay in power offering a ‘fig leaf of democracy’? (11) Who ‘bumps off’ or imprisons on trumped up charges any and all opposition? (12) Who changes history books on a whim downplaying Soviet atrocities? (13) Who authorises the murder of any and all internal investigative process into the regimes actions?

Unless you lot vote for or have a coup by Ghengis Khan who actually starts an overt war, you’d have a hard job in beating the actions of Czar Vlad and his cronies.
1) Allegations
2) Allegations
3) Agitprop as a tool is quite common, in fact, in many countries including the UK
4) Nationalism is also quote common in many countries. Who are they in the UKIP? Do Scotish nationalists exist?
5) Allegations. Also it is not forbidden by any international treaty.
6) Washington showed many examples of this sort.
7) Washington showed many examples of this sort.
8 - What do you mean? I don't understand.
9) Oligarchs and corrupted officials in Russia and in many other countries.
10) Manipulations in politics are quite common in any country.
11) I'm unaware about political prisoners in Russia.
12) Books with alternative viewpoints are freely available in Russia.
13) What do you mean? Who was murdered?
 
Ah. Here we are again. Whataboutery and denials.
 
Worse than Putin?

Someone worse than pushing the boundaries of A5? Who is (‘Highly likely’) responsible for ordering CBRN attacks on another country’s soil? Who supports the use of CW by allies by use of repeated vetoes? Who actively pushes agitprop to his own country and abroad? Who stokes nationalism in his country irrespective of the consequences? Who orders widespread hacking and attempts to influence the democratic process in other states? Who rattles his sabre at former members of the Soviet Union? Who starts wars in neighbouring country's and steals their land? Who denies responsibility at the drop of a hat as he lies through his teeth? Who blatantly with his ‘crooks and thieves’ steals $Bn’s from the coffers of the state he runs? Who manipulates his own political process to continuously stay in power offering a ‘fig leaf of democracy’? Who ‘bumps off’ or imprisons on trumped up charges any and all opposition? Who changes history books on a whim downplaying Soviet atrocities? Who authorises the murder of any and all internal investigative process into the regimes actions?

Unless you lot vote for or have a coup by Ghengis Khan who actually starts an overt war, you’d have a hard job in beating the actions of Czar Vlad and his cronies.
This guy thinks you're adorable. :-D

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1) Allegations
2) Allegations
3) Agitprop as a tool is quite common, in fact, in many countries including the UK
4) Nationalism is also quote common in many countries. Who are they in the UKIP? Do Scotish nationalists exist?
5) Allegations. Also it is not forbidden by any international treaty.
6) Washington showed many examples of this sort.
7) Washington showed many examples of this sort.
8 - What do you mean? I don't understand.
9) Oligarchs and corrupted officials in Russia and in many other countries.
10) Manipulations in politics are quite common in any country.
11) I'm unaware about political prisoners in Russia.
12) Books with alternative viewpoints are freely available in Russia.
13) What do you mean? Who was murdered?
I see it's cretinous lickspittle Sergei on shift...
 
More like quarantine.
Until your diseased state either dies or cures itself.
I doubt that China, India and dozens other countries would support the idea of the 'quarantine'.
Would the EU stop to buy oil and gas from Russia?
With oil/gas import from Russia, the 'quarantine' would remain an empty claim.
 

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