Critically ill man 'former Russian spy'

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Well, thanks for that. I am a simple country boy who buys flowers for his Mam but it seems to me... this rare nerve agent originated in Russia. Was made in Russia and is not a product you can buy in Boots.

So, tell me if I am going too fast for you.... The Russian nerve agent that almost killed an old bloke and his innocent daughter and a decent Rozzer originated in...... nah. Take a wild guess?

Is it RUSSIA?

What do I win?
Yeah but.....it may look like a duck and sound like a duck but it still might not BE a duck, look at Trump a true Republican he ain't. I think the general public will never get to know the full facts and the whole thing will be swept under the polonium irradiated carpet, we need the natural gas folks it's gonna get cold at the weekend.
 
Shocking coincidence.

A Russian political exile who warned he was on Putin's hitlist has been found dead in London

A Russian political exile who once warned that he was on the personal hitlist of Vladimir Putin has died in London in unexplained circumstances.

Nikolai Glushkov was found dead at his home in the UK capital, according to multiple UK and Russian media outlets. The exact circumstances are not yet clear.
You beat me to it.

Here's the Guardian's report on the latest Russian death in Britain:

Russian exile Nikolai Glushkov found dead at his London home

"Close friend of late oligarch Boris Berezovsky claimed political asylum in UK after being convicted of fraud"

Ah, Boris.

Boris Berezovsky was at a time the most important anti-Putin "Russian oligarch" in the world, and before that he was the most important private sector figure backing Yeltsin. For a time he was on the Russian Security Council until the head of the FSB threatened to resign if he wasn't sacked. He also had joint Israeli and Russian citizenship at that time.

He was a brutal mafia boss, a killer, and he should never have been allowed into Britain, let alone given British citizenship. Ditto with certain other figures in London.

We're lucky that as yet there hasn't been full-scale gang war between Russia-origin criminal gangs in London - which could leave not just 20 or so casualties (which is around the actual figure so far), mostly of their own people, but hundreds, with heavier weapons used and much greater collateral damage.

We need some "truth" here, not reconciliation. Fight the mafiya, which has never been separate from the ~KGB. (Ask the Swiss.) In those circles the Jewish/Russian distinction is of more importance than ~KGB/anti-Putin. Only total a***holes and Walts in Kray brothers t-shirts think there's anything "cool" about the mafia whatsoever.

The word "exile" makes Glushkov sound like he was Dostoyevsky or Sakharov. He was a leading figure in organised crime, given sanctuary when he shouldn't have been.
 
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You beat me to it.

Here's the Guardian's report on the latest Russian death in Britain:

Russian exile Nikolai Glushkov found dead at his London home

"Close friend of late oligarch Boris Berezovsky claimed political asylum in UK after being convicted of fraud"

Ah, Boris.

Boris Berezovsky was at a time the most important anti-Putin "Russian oligarch" in the world, and before that he was the most important private sector figure backing Yeltsin. For a time he was on the Russian Security Council until the head of the FSB threatened to resign if he wasn't sacked. He also had joint Israeli and Russian citizenship at that time.

He was a brutal mafia boss, a killer, and he should never have been allowed into Britain, let alone given British citizenship. Ditto with certain other figures in London.

We're lucky that as yet there hasn't been full-scale gang war between Russia-origin criminal gangs in London - which could leave not just 20 or so casualties (which is around the actual figure so far), mostly of their own people, but hundreds, with heavier weapons used and much greater collateral damage.

We need some "truth" here, not reconciliation. Fight the mafiya, which has never been separate from the ~KGB. (Ask the Swiss.) In those circles the Jewish/Russian distinction is of more importance than ~KGB/anti-Putin. Only total a***holes and Walts think there's anything "cool" about the mafia whatsoever.

The word "exile" makes Glushkov sound like he was Dostoyevsky or Sakharov. He was a leading figure in organised crime, given sanctuary when he shouldn't have been.
It's possible (5%?) that some kind of incarnation of Berezovsky's organisation was behind Salisbury. I don't doubt they could get their hands on many nasties. In this scenario, Putin whacks Glushkov to indicate he doesn't want trouble. At the same time he may also be saying "When we want to off someone, we do it like this - we're not f***ing amateurs".

Who killed BB is still anybody's guess. Suicide I reckon is unlikely.
 
Dont' forget the whole series of Standard Missiles and ESSM used to defend against incoming missiles, not to mention all the EW gear as well.

Still waiting for the Donald to Respond about Russia, or let Mattis and McMaster handle it/
He's responded -

"As soon as we get the facts straight, if we agree with them, we will condemn Russia or whoever it may be," Trump said.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...talk-to-britains-may-about-nerve-agent-attack

If he agrees with the facts he'll condemn someone.
 
It should be said that the nerve agent in question is extremely powerful and very small amount is sufficient to cause poisoning. The container could look this way
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There are many possible scenarios. Mr.Skripal could get the nerve agent when he served in GRU, smuggle it abroad and keep in the UK or in Spain that he frequently visited. Mr.Skripal had bank account and maybe a cell in the bank where he could keep some documents and such an 'innocent' toy.
But one day the container failed to function normally and due to leakage mr.Skripal and his daughter were poisoned (selfpoisoned). Also their house was poisoned. The leakage could be very slow. So the Skripls were able to walk, to visit restaurant and their bodies themselves were sources of poison.
Anyway it explains known facts.
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In the case with mr.Skripal, hardly British specialists are aware about specific markers (artificial or natural, functional) that point to Russia as a place of production.
I think you might be surprised by that Sergei but we will agree to differ. Not necessarily Russia as place of production. They could have been made a good while ago and stored. They would retain some markers, especially added compounds as per your reference to natural gas. Others as well regarding purity of relatively easily available precursor compounds. This manufacture being prior to Ukraine independence. The markers would only use functional groups as an identification tool, e.g.N233or whatever. In other words, to give the name of the agents .Artificial and natural would identify place of production etc. All of this is open source.

The problem with this incident is that it is a step up in nastiness from the usual thuggery. I would respectfully suggest that you could present evidence of why it couldn't be a Russian state hit rather than offering implausible counter scenarios. Just as a matter if interest, in England, one can usually use a baseball or cricket bat for home defence. No need for nerve agents. Even if at risk, there are other defences which can be authorised.

I hate to say it but we really do live in interesting times.
 
Shocking coincidence.

A Russian political exile who warned he was on Putin's hitlist has been found dead in London

A Russian political exile who once warned that he was on the personal hitlist of Vladimir Putin has died in London in unexplained circumstances.

Nikolai Glushkov was found dead at his home in the UK capital, according to multiple UK and Russian media outlets. The exact circumstances are not yet clear.
Those sneaky Ukrainian death squads get every where, don't they.
 
He did, but he ruled them out in the interview I saw. Maybe it was edited :)
Not in the earlier interviews I saw, he was just listing all possible nerve agents, basically treating them as equally likely possibilities even long after it was clear they were not!
 
I recall that we began to discuss an imaginary scenario of full scale financial warfare against Russia. Of course gas and oil supplies to Europe from Russia would be terminated immediately that would be a heavy blow to European economy.
EU even more dependent on Russian gas

Infographic: Europe is Highly Dependent on Russian Gas

As you may see, some European countries 100% dependent from Russian gas. For Finland termination of gas supplies would be a catastrophe.
As a result of the imaginary financial war, Russia could go further. It could make an ultimatum to KSA and the Gulfies to stop oil supplies completely or ... after formal declaration of state of war with mentioned countries, their oil infrastructure could be destroyed very easily. The Persian Gulf and other areas could be declared as a war zone. In the war zone any tanker in Persian Gulf could be sank. What the USA could do? Only unleash WW3 that is not a good option.
The financial war means free hands for Russia to print high quality fake dollars, euros, pounds. Criminal structures (Italian for example) would be happy to distribute fake banknotes.
Russian airspace of course would be closed for Western companies (but not for Chinese one). China will buy Russian oil and gas for Yuans and Russia will buy Chinese, Japanese, US, European goods in China for Yuans.

Thanks the Lord this scenarion will not happen.
In October that post would worry me but seeing as we're in March, not so much. While Europe tends to heat in Winter, Russia has to eat all year round. I wonder which will hit hardest; fuel or food rationing.
 
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