Critically ill man 'former Russian spy'

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Gel or Liquid?
Liquid or gel?
Obviously it was just an oversight from the GRU B team.
Like this time:

'Ex-Russian scientist Vil Mirzayanov says the hitman who carried out the attack failed to kill their victims because the Novichok was 'washed off the door handle'.
He told The Sun: 'The substance was used when it was quite foggy — water droplets were in the air. It can be used only in dry air.

'In such weather conditions this substance could be used only by an idiot who knows nothing about the chemical characteristics of Novichok.

'If you drop it into water in some hours no trace will be left. It dissolves in water.'
Novichok Salisbury hitman failed to kill Skripals because it was raining | Daily Mail Online

Good idea using this Russian sounding nerve agent in March in Salisbury, then?
Never rains in Salisbury, does it?

Just another mistake from the B team.
The only people who know aren’t commenting, as it’s an active criminal investigation....
 
still no evidence that the bottle had gel in it.

Maybe you should return to answering the other question I asked as they are much more simpler to answer.
 
You can also recall that even word "Moscow" - "Moskva" is not Slavic at all. It is Finish (River of Bears). Russians are colonisators, Brits are colonisators. But Russians looks like more lucky.
We agree on something - you agree that Russia toook countries by force and retained them by oppression.

Britain introduced democracy, law, administration and many other things before providing independence. The fact that those countries happily remain within the commonwealth with request to the Queen to remain as Head of State illustrates the esteem that Britain holds.

The continual in-fighting in the greater Russia shows the oppression of those countries by Russia.

Q.E.D.
 
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You have picked up to the fact that INTREPs are now coming courtesy of MSM, haven't you?
uk.gov and plod have kept a very small profile when it comes to informing the great British taxpayer...
Godluv'em.
In your addled brain they are... the rest of us who live in the U.K. and understand how the media work here all understand that anything in the media is speculation unless it’s been confirmed by someone official.

In this case the government are categorically not going to use the Daily Mail, BBC or any other media outlet to disseminate information about the attacks.
 
You have picked up to the fact that INTREPs are now coming courtesy of MSM, haven't you?
uk.gov and plod have kept a very small profile when it comes to informing the great British taxpayer...
Godluv'em.
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But you have already explained why this is happening , it's the D notices stupid. Have you not read your own posts?:eek::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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The only people who know aren’t commenting, as it’s an active criminal investigation....
An enormously pre-determined ongoingcriminalinvestigation?

If this ever got to a court it would be thrown out before it could even begin.
The pre-determined verdict has been pushed down everyone's throat from the start.

It's never meant to get to court though is it?

It's supposed to fester and enrage, while the lack of proof and evidence will be forgotten about.

It'll always be 'Russia dun it' to the uninformed.

Who needs proof, evidence, facts or a stable story-line?
 
You seem to be emotionally attached to this story, am I right?

Were you being ironic putting 'leep(sic)' and 'intelligence' in the same sentence?


(Soon to be Sir) Hamish de Bretton-Gordon is the go-to man for all the press' needs.
He is the man charged with maneuvering this particular story.

Look's like this particular story about squirting a gel through an atomiser is actually taking hold.

'NOVICHOK victim Dawn Sturgess died after spraying the nerve agent from a perfume bottle on her wrists,
her devastated boyfriend has claimed. '
"My brother told me that he remembered that Dawn had sprayed the perfume on both her wrists.

(even though it honked of ammonia?)
Novichok victim Dawn Sturgess died after 'spraying nerve agent from perfume bottle on her wrists'

Look's like this new theory about atomising a gel might just be the new official line.

How come they haven't picked up on the impracticality of this, or are they just sat around laughing at all you mugs?
I've highlighted the relevant part in green. You have elucidated that this Charlie fellow is a worthless junkie who overdosed on class A drugs who is also in on the plot and feeding government lies to newspapers.

His claim is his girlfriend sprayed something onto herself. Lets assume it's a liquid. Now quote an offcial source that says the nerve agent is definitely in gel form.

Don't post the same thing for the upteenth time, post something concrete. If you can't, and you can't then obviously the is no change in the story is there?
 
I've highlighted the relevant part in green. You have elucidated that this Charlie fellow is a worthless junkie who overdosed on class A drugs who is also in on the plot and feeding government lies to newspapers.

His claim is his girlfriend sprayed something onto herself. Lets assume it's a liquid. Now quote an offcial source that says the nerve agent is definitely in gel form.

Don't post the same thing for the upteenth time, post something concrete. If you can't, and you can't then obviously the is no change in the story is there?
They must have smeared liquid novichok on the front door then.
Painted it on with a roller they did.

Gel was the chosen theory as liquid would go with gravity and run-off.

You think they had a few litres of NA then?
Just in case.

Let's just dump the rest in a park where it will never be found.....evil laugh....
 
Apparently the Russians developed a A-234 gel to use specifically for this whack.
Apparently they had been practicing this TS task and someone leaked it.
Russia tested nerve agent on door handles before Skripal attack, UK dossier claims
Please quote from that article where it uses the word 'gel'.

I've read that link to the Guardian. I've also searched it for the word 'gel'. Guess what? The word 'gel' does not appear anywhere on the page. You are quoting something that does not back up what you claim. You are making things up. Or as we call it, lying.

No surprises there. You are utterly dishonest.
 
Please quote from that article where it uses the word 'gel'.

I've read that link to the Guardian. I've also searched it for the word 'gel'. Guess what? The word 'gel' does not appear anywhere on the page. You are quoting something that does not back up what you claim. You are making things up. Or as we call it, lying.

No surprises there. You are utterly dishonest.
But he has said he reads all the articles he post at least twice so that he understands them. Or he may lie. I think the second option is more accurate too.
 
@ 20secs HBG suddenly forgets he already perpetuated the rumour that it was applied as a gel and says the spray-applicator would be ideal for spraying it on..
If it was in liquid form...only.

As a gel, you won't get anywhere fast.
Especially if you're in a cul-de-sac at someone's white front door trying to 'smear' nerve agent on it.

'Putin's scientists created a 'watered-down' gel version of deadly Novichok to be smeared over the door handle at the Skripals' Salisbury home' Russian spy poisoned by nerve agent designed to take FOUR HOURS to kill so attackers 'had time to flee UK'

A watered-down gel version eh? Have you any idea what watered-down means? Watering down means dilution with water. That means a substance is going to become less viscous and therefore less gel like.

You are quoting the Sun FFS. It's complete rubbish. No wonder you are so confused.
 
An enormously pre-determined
set of claims you have made but fail to back up.
Are you ever going to provide any evidence to your claims?
Or will you hide under your desk with you safety blanket till the nasty men go or just post more rubbish from under your desk.
 
You have picked up to the fact that INTREPs are now coming courtesy of MSM, haven't you?
uk.gov and plod have kept a very small profile when it comes to informing the great British taxpayer...
Godluv'em.
You loon. If a government was going to put out a story via the media there would only be one version. If you control the narrative then you don't have to make up different versions because doing so would just expose the plot. This is one of the reasons why the Russians have released some 30 versions of the story in order to confuse and try to cloud the issue.

The problem you have is you are so far down the rabbit hole that no matter what, you are going to dismiss any evidence contrary to fantasy held in your head. It's how you avoid reality.
 
They must have smeared liquid novichok on the front door then.
Painted it on with a roller they did.

Gel was the chosen theory as liquid would go with gravity and run-off.

You think they had a few litres of NA then?
Just in case.

Let's just dump the rest in a park where it will never be found.....evil laugh....
So you can't link to a source. No surprises there. You are all over the place.

People not connected with the investigation have speculated that a gel was used.

speculate
ˈspɛkjʊleɪt/
verb
past tense: speculated; past participle: speculated
  1. 1.
    form a theory or conjecture about a subject without firm evidence.
    "my colleagues speculate about my private life"
    synonyms:conjecture, theorize, form theories, hypothesize, make suppositions, postulate, guess, make guesses, surmise;
    think, wonder, muse
    "my colleagues speculate about my private life"
That doesn't mean a gel was used. It's you that is taking everything literally and seeing meaning where there is none.
 

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It is beyond 118's intellect to accept that the NA could have been transported in the bottle and then sprayed on the gel which had been applied to the handle. He is only capable of holding one thought in his head at any one time and the concept that the two could have been mixed at the time of application is too much for his mega intellect.
To transport a highly toxic liquid poison in the ordinary parfumes bottle? Especially by the plane? Really, it's too much even for the mighty intellect of the British pseudo-investigators.
 
To transport a highly toxic liquid poison in the ordinary parfumes bottle? Especially by the plane? Really, it's too much even for the mighty intellect of the British pseudo-investigators.
No, it is quite brilliant. As small 10ml bottle of perfume would cause no attention when carried in your hand luggage.

By design perfume bottle s are strong as they are intended to be transported in haphazard ways. By having it in your hand luggage you keep control over it so it will not be lost with the rest of your luggage at you destination. It has a seal and a simple but very effective applicator that is designed not to leak as good perfume is very expensive.

But then you have never traveled beyond your bedroom or purchased perfume for another have you.

Any more names of these British Oligarchs?
 
An enormously pre-determined ongoingcriminalinvestigation?

If this ever got to a court it would be thrown out before it could even begin.
The pre-determined verdict has been pushed down everyone's throat from the start.

It's never meant to get to court though is it?

It's supposed to fester and enrage, while the lack of proof and evidence will be forgotten about.

It'll always be 'Russia dun it' to the uninformed.

Who needs proof, evidence, facts or a stable story-line?
Proof please of the bolded parts.

Or as per usual it's made up crap from your fevered conspiraloon mind.
 
A watered-down gel version eh? Have you any idea what watered-down means? Watering down means dilution with water. That means a substance is going to become less viscous and therefore less gel like.

You are quoting the Sun FFS. It's complete rubbish. No wonder you are so confused.
The story varies from various MSM sources but gel was mentioned many times as being the method used on the Skripal's front door.
Formerly in charge of CBRN, talking about possibilities
The same who's running the publics' knowledge campaign.

Toeing the line like a good boy since day1.


Those, who have been paying attention, will know that straight off the bat he lied.
Many countries synthesised Novichok and it was very well known about.

Proof please of the bolded parts.

Or as per usual it's made up crap from your fevered conspiraloon mind.
That is now public-record.

Sir Hamish de Bretton-Gordon will do very well out of these shenanigans as will Sir Kier Pritchard.
You loon. If a government was going to put out a story via the media there would only be one version. If you control the narrative then you don't have to make up different versions because doing so would just expose the plot. This is one of the reasons why the Russians have released some 30 versions of the story in order to confuse and try to cloud the issue.

The problem you have is you are so far down the rabbit hole that no matter what, you are going to dismiss any evidence contrary to fantasy held in your head. It's how you avoid reality.
Going in 20 different directions at once is much more effective than just one-story but not if you're on the rx'ing end of the equation.

There are so many false-leads here.

it would be better to get any news from the authorities but they're not much use.
The last report from last week, plod said, after 17weeks, still no suspects/leads.

The press are The Ministry of Truth.
Running the narrative as opposed to just reporting it.

Then we get back to the 2 Notices, SIS, UK govt, Trump/Steele dossier, Cambridge Analytica,
Democratic National Convention.... etc..etc


This is one of the reasons why the Russians have released some 30 versions of the story in order to confuse and try to cloud the issue.
Or the Russians are just moving with the punches.
You try proving a negative like 'we didn't kill him'.
It's Russia FFS.


On the other hand there's still no evidence, facts, proof pointing to Russia either.

Wasn't it an open and shut case back in March '18?

Proof please of the bolded parts.
Another goldfish?
 
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