Critically ill man 'former Russian spy'

Answer accepted. You know nothing about both British and Russian armies. So, you wasn't any kind of recce. Pls, don't use this argument in the discussion.
Hahaha. You are a plonker. I know what I've done, how about you? Less computer games & playing with toys of course.
So if Russian Majors & above were wearing plastic slip on shoes, what were the rest of your Army wearing. Flop flips?
Have you phoned the Kremlin yet?

Have a word with the chief troll will you?
The standard of troll on here is appaling.
 
Read it? I f*****g lived it!!
But enough of you showing your lack of knowledge of anything military.
Why did the Russian state use a Russian developed CW in an English town with the usual incompetence? Be a good boy & phone Paedo Putin & get the "inside line" will you?
There you go again.
I mean, that if the May's regime want to use CW against their own peaceful citizens, it is her own business, but attack against the Russians - is the very different thing.
Do you still believe that the most potent nerve agent known to man was used here?

Nobody dead.
Out of 6 test-cases there was only ever one fatality.
That fatality was an alcoholic heroin addict that had been in/out of hospital like a yo-yo for booze/drugs anyway.

Not even the other H addict popped his clogs through this deadly toxin.


The Skripals went down with some psychoactive incapacitating agent.
Not deadly nerve agent in a gel form.
Or they would be dead.

The two coppers, Bailey and anonymous, also didn't croak.
One was a bit ill for a few days the other faded into complete obscurity very quickly.
No deadly nerve toxin here, they're both still breathing.

Dawn and Charlie?
Bad Class A's- bad stuff in the AOR and they came across it.
I've posted the link to the Salisbury Rag's story ref fentanyl-based H in the South West.
It's a while back.

Dawn died and Charlie survived even after coming up against the deadliest NA ever.
Dawn's body had been running-on-empty for years and this bad H was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

They will name a rehab centre after her and he will be well looked after if he just goes along with everything.
Given the alternative, who wouldn't?
 
Answer accepted. You know nothing about both British and Russian armies. So, you wasn't any kind of recce. Pls, don't use this argument in the discussion.
Your answer proves you’re a teenage fool who gets his kicks from playing Warhammer 40K. You’ve never served Yaraslov and believe your agitprop. Time to grow up.
 
There you go again.

Do you still believe that the most potent nerve agent known to man was used here?

Nobody dead.
Out of 6 test-cases there was only ever one fatality.
That fatality was an alcoholic heroin addict that had been in/out of hospital like a yo-yo for booze/drugs anyway.

Not even the other H addict popped his clogs through this deadly toxin.


The Skripals went down with some psychoactive incapacitating agent.
Not deadly nerve agent in a gel form.
Or they would be dead.

The two coppers, Bailey and anonymous, also didn't croak.
One was a bit ill for a few days the other faded into complete obscurity very quickly.
No deadly nerve toxin here, they're both still breathing.

Dawn and Charlie?
Bad Class A's- bad stuff in the AOR and they came across it.
I've posted the link to the Salisbury Rag's story ref fentanyl-based H in the South West.
It's a while back.

Dawn died and Charlie survived even after coming up against the deadliest NA ever.
Dawn's body had been running-on-empty for years and this bad H was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

They will name a rehab centre after her and he will be well looked after if he just goes along with everything.
Given the alternative, who wouldn't?
‘Nobody dead’? Ongoing murder investigation
 
There you go again.

Do you still believe that the most potent nerve agent known to man was used here?

Nobody dead.
Out of 6 test-cases there was only ever one fatality.
That fatality was an alcoholic heroin addict that had been in/out of hospital like a yo-yo for booze/drugs anyway.

Not even the other H addict popped his clogs through this deadly toxin.


The Skripals went down with some psychoactive incapacitating agent.
Not deadly nerve agent in a gel form.
Or they would be dead.

The two coppers, Bailey and anonymous, also didn't croak.
One was a bit ill for a few days the other faded into complete obscurity very quickly.
No deadly nerve toxin here, they're both still breathing.

Dawn and Charlie?
Bad Class A's- bad stuff in the AOR and they came across it.
I've posted the link to the Salisbury Rag's story ref fentanyl-based H in the South West.
It's a while back.

Dawn died and Charlie survived even after coming up against the deadliest NA ever.
Dawn's body had been running-on-empty for years and this bad H was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

They will name a rehab centre after her and he will be well looked after if he just goes along with everything.
Given the alternative, who wouldn't?

Aw - showing your softer feminine side using names instead of the standard junkies and druggies. You are sweet aren't you.

Also about the lack of deaths - just shows that Russian N.A. doesn't work very well.
 

Grey Fox

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Not too far back in this very thread Grey Fox made a big issue of Britsh forces using interpreters with foreign nationals and thus perhaps leading to getting duff info and not seeing the real picture of a situation.
Imho he was mocking the idea and saying it was a stupid thing to do
Sure.

Grey Fox, later today your president Putin will meet with president Trump and Putin will only have one interpreter to tell him what Trump has said.
But CNN mentioned Trump's translator, Marina Gross (by the way, 'Marina' is the typical Russian name), and Trump himself knows Russian at the 'begginer' level, that allow him to be not desinformed by an interpreter.
Trump's translator will be debriefed by US officials
 
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Surely that should be 'manslaughter' not 'murder'?
And as for the investigation-side?
If it's anything like OP anti-Vlad 1 it should be very entertaining.

Any news on Sergei and Yulia?
I suggest you read up on common law and also ‘transferred malice’
 
So, your question was?.....
That's the fourth time you've asked that about the same question. You even tried to answer it but very poorly. Go back over your posts and look for the question, it's there you just need to look.
 

Grey Fox

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Do you still believe that the most potent nerve agent known to man was used here?
No, I don't believe it. First of all, A-234 is not 'most potent nerve agent known to man'. Second - according symptoms of the poisoning, described by witnesses, it was not looks like A-234 poisoning. Third, unwilling of May's regime to give any real information about this incident is too suspiciouse.
 
No, I don't believe it. First of all, A-234 is not 'most potent nerve agent known to man'. Second - according symptoms of the poisoning, described by witnesses, it was not looks like A-234 poisoning. Third, unwilling of May's regime to give any real information about this incident is too suspiciouse.
Russia made the claim that it was the most deadly, so is Russia wrong?
They have given lots of information. What other info that they have would you like to have.
And what symptoms did the victim have besides death and what are the symptoms of A-234?
 
We'll see. I mean, Russian ambassador can be sure, that Putin don't want to bomb Porton-Down, but May's regime will force him to bomb Porton-Down (and not only it).
SO, BASICALLY YOU WERE TELLING LIES.

Not really a surprise, and trying to change your assertion after you got completey caught out just doesnt work.

It's interesting that you see May's government as more powerful than Putin, and that Britain can force Russia to do something!

Or are you telling lies again.
 
So, you didn't read US Army Field Manual even on the internet. Did you read British Army Field Manual (or whatever they have)?
Grey Fox's lack of knowledge about Western Forces reminds me of how backwards Russian/Soviet intelligence gathering has been on some occasions.
Most of us will remember Russian agents counting the number of lights on at night at MOD main building and seeing them as a sign of preparations for war.

And thus thinking overnight cleaning staff meant the MOD was on war footing.
Idiots.
 

Grey Fox

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On ROPs
Russia made the claim that it was the most deadly, so is Russia wrong?
Russian official said nothing about it. It was desinformant Mirzayanov, who said about this program, and Yanks and Brits media just imagine all other.

They have given lots of information. What other info that they have would you like to have.
It was not 'information', it was 'desinformation'. Real information you can get only in your own labs.
And what symptoms did the victim have besides death and what are the symptoms of A-234?
There was no significant convulsions demonstrated by the any victim, and convulsions is the important symptom of any NA-poisoning.
 
No, I don't believe it. First of all, A-234 is not 'most potent nerve agent known to man'. Second - according symptoms of the poisoning, described by witnesses, it was not looks like A-234 poisoning. Third, unwilling of May's regime to give any real information about this incident is too suspiciouse.
Good.
This story is getting worse, at least you can see through it too.

'Charlie Rowley's partner Dawn Sturgess died a week ago after coming into contact with Novichok. The claim the deadly nerve agent was in a perfume bottle raises the question of whether Sturgess sprayed the liquid on herself, therefore administering a lethal dose of the substance.'
Deadly Novichok Nerve Agent Hidden In Perfume Bottle | ten daily

So is this supposed NA not in gel form anymore?
Pretty hard squirting a gel through or pointless keeping a gel in a perfume bottle.

'The newspaper also quoted an anonymous source, saying: “The Kremlin wanted to get its agents out of Britain before the Novichok could be identified. So they reduced its toxicity and used it in a gel form rather than as a gas – had the Skripals inhaled the nerve agent they would have died very quickly.'

‘Boutique’ form of Novichok used in Skripal spy attack allowed Russian agents time to escape

'Chemical weapons expert Hamish de Bretton-Gordon said the latest victims were likely collateral damage from the Skripal attack.
"The Novichok gel that was smeared on the handle of the Skripals' house was presumably transported in some device or syringe," he said.
'
How Novichok struck again, months after the Skripal attack

Just another day in Stupidsville.
 

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