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Critically ill man 'former Russian spy'

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@184461 any chance you can provide evidence that JC didn't see the same info as all the rest.
 
What, like Sheeple and ********* sic.



Hmmmm.



I often find Bugsy interesting. He at least puts some thought into his posts even though I am heavily conditioned by reality to think that he is wrong. Never had more than a hand bags at dawn with him. I do not see why you want him to come here to back you up. The truth speaks for itself, does it not?
Don't post it'll just get my friend breaking his game of virtual-chicken.
He just can't help himself.
He's hanging out to reply ever since sent a blind reply to him.
 
Don't post it'll just get my friend breaking his game of virtual-chicken.
He just can't help himself.
He's hanging out to reply ever since sent a blind reply to him.
‘Friend’? ‘Virtual chicken’?

Genuinely, seek help: Mental Health Australia
 
We could start a thing:' the annual virtual chicken thing' awards.
I don't suppose I will get a reply to my questions eh?

On another note, there is a developing arrse meme that seems to indicate that a thread has dropped to oblivion once the word chicken is announced. It causes bad things to happen.
 
I don't suppose I will get a reply to my questions eh?

On another note, there is a developing arrse meme that seems to indicate that a thread has dropped to oblivion once the word chicken is announced. It causes bad things to happen.
Rgr, send all again , over
 
Missing from all of the discussion surrounding culpability is the clear possibility that it was just some guy or girl who found the nerve agent on the street and accidentally broke the vial when in proximity to the Skripals:

Chemical weapons found at Russian city dump.

Good to see the Russians demonstrating their usual competence.
 
So no evidence that he did not get the same info as Moldova then but he did get the same info as all the other Privy Council members like his shadow chancellor.
I doubt there will be somehow.
From these excerpts/ articles we can ascertain that 23 states including Moldova, Croatia, Albania, Republic of Ireland, Macedonia, Montenegro and even Ukraine received a higher classification of int than Corbs.
Considering Corbs is very anti- money-making wars and' the man they couldn''t hang'- they couldn't risk showing him anything that would/could raise questions at a later date.. OSA or not.

'Britain divulged “unprecedented levels of intelligence” to other countries in order to convince them that Vladimir Putin’s Russia had carried out the first nerve agent attack in Europe since the Second World War.

The material provided to the allies included sensitive reports and the conclusions of the military research base at Porton Down, as well as explanation of how these were obtained. The information, senior government officials hold, was key to 23 states and Nato carrying out a mass expulsion this week of over a hundred Russians working under diplomatic credentials.'
Britain divulged 'unprecedented levels of intelligence' to convince countries Russia was behind nerve agent attack

The government has defended its decision not to share the full intelligence on the Salisbury nerve agent attack with Jeremy Corbyn, insisting the “circle” of those with access to highly sensitive information should be restricted.

Ben Wallace, the security minister, said the number of people entrusted with the most sensitive details of the case should be deliberately kept small so intelligence agents’ lives were not put at risk.

The Labour party leader has received an intelligence briefing on privy council terms, but was not given the same access to highly classified information as David Cameron provided to Ed Miliband over Syria in 2013.

“This is serious stuff and the circle of who gets to see very sensitive information is very small, because if you leak it or it gets out, people’s lives are put at risk,” Wallace said.
Spy poisoning: minister defends not sharing full intelligence with Corbyn
 
From these excerpts/ articles we can ascertain that 23 states including Moldova, Croatia, Albania, Republic of Ireland, Macedonia, Montenegro and even Ukraine received a higher classification of int than Corbs.
Considering Corbs is very anti- money-making wars and' the man they couldn''t hang'- they couldn't risk showing him anything that would/could raise questions at a later date.. OSA or not.

'Britain divulged “unprecedented levels of intelligence” to other countries in order to convince them that Vladimir Putin’s Russia had carried out the first nerve agent attack in Europe since the Second World War.

The material provided to the allies included sensitive reports and the conclusions of the military research base at Porton Down, as well as explanation of how these were obtained. The information, senior government officials hold, was key to 23 states and Nato carrying out a mass expulsion this week of over a hundred Russians working under diplomatic credentials.'
Britain divulged 'unprecedented levels of intelligence' to convince countries Russia was behind nerve agent attack

The government has defended its decision not to share the full intelligence on the Salisbury nerve agent attack with Jeremy Corbyn, insisting the “circle” of those with access to highly sensitive information should be restricted.

Ben Wallace, the security minister, said the number of people entrusted with the most sensitive details of the case should be deliberately kept small so intelligence agents’ lives were not put at risk.

The Labour party leader has received an intelligence briefing on privy council terms, but was not given the same access to highly classified information as David Cameron provided to Ed Miliband over Syria in 2013.

“This is serious stuff and the circle of who gets to see very sensitive information is very small, because if you leak it or it gets out, people’s lives are put at risk,” Wallace said.
Spy poisoning: minister defends not sharing full intelligence with Corbyn
Sums it up:

“He is the leader of the opposition; he is not the government. He doesn’t have the duty or the responsibility of protecting at the moment – and I hope he never does – the security of this country,” he told BBC radio.

“He would already have seen more than the average backbench MP because he had a privy council briefing, but at the end of the day, this government is responsible for the security of the people, and the United Kingdom’s interests, and as a result, we have to take the judgement based on the result we get from our professionals.

“The decision of what to share was made and I wasn’t privy to what he was allowed to see, but it would have been made in a reasoned environment where people wanted to show him evidence.

“He can always dispute that; it’s not about him being helpful, he doesn’t have to be helpful, he can be critical and say whatever he likes, he is leader of the opposition and has a perfect right [to] – and he should – question the government”.
 
'The Prime Minister did not allow the Labour leader to be briefed on the attack on former double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia, in the same way David Cameron allowed Ed Miliband to see key information held by the state ahead of the Syria vote in 2013.

Mr Corbyn was extended a briefing on the attack under privy council rules but was not given access to the same detail as Mrs May, the paper says.
This signalled a move away from predecessor, who invited Mr Miliband and Tim Livesey, his chief of staff, into his office for a full briefing.


It is thought Mr Cameron was far more welcoming to Mr Miliband as he had hoped to persuade him to support military action in Syria after the Assad regime had launched a chemical attack against civilians.

Privy Council briefings on top secret information can be extended to other members of the house on the discretion of the Prime Minister.

However, in this case neither Mr Corbyn nor his chief of staff Karie Murphy were, nor were they invited to a national security council meeting.

Downing Street refused to comment.'


Corbyn is not a complete sell-out unlike Milipede.
The party voted for Milipede but the labour voters elected PC.
They're completely different creatures and even though PC was vetted high enough to have had all the int it was all deemed 'Need to know'.
Jeremy Corbyn 'not given full access to top secret information Salisbury poisoning'

And this is the reason that May couldn't be arsed going in front of parliament to plead her case that bombing a foreign-state based on flimsy int was a good thing.

Syria conflict: David Cameron humiliated after losing Commons vote on possible military action | Daily Mail Online
 
'The Prime Minister did not allow the Labour leader to be briefed on the attack on former double agent Sergei Skripal and his daughter, Yulia, in the same way David Cameron allowed Ed Miliband to see key information held by the state ahead of the Syria vote in 2013.

Mr Corbyn was extended a briefing on the attack under privy council rules but was not given access to the same detail as Mrs May, the paper says.
This signalled a move away from predecessor, who invited Mr Miliband and Tim Livesey, his chief of staff, into his office for a full briefing.


It is thought Mr Cameron was far more welcoming to Mr Miliband as he had hoped to persuade him to support military action in Syria after the Assad regime had launched a chemical attack against civilians.

Privy Council briefings on top secret information can be extended to other members of the house on the discretion of the Prime Minister.

However, in this case neither Mr Corbyn nor his chief of staff Karie Murphy were, nor were they invited to a national security council meeting.

Downing Street refused to comment.'

Corbyn is not a complete sell-out unlike Milipede.
The party voted for Milipede but the labour voters elected PC.
They're completely different creatures and even though PC was vetted high enough to have had all the int it was all deemed 'Need to know'.
Jeremy Corbyn 'not given full access to top secret information Salisbury poisoning'

And this is the reason that May couldn't be arsed going in front of parliament to plead her case that bombing a foreign-state based on flimsy int was a good thing.

Syria conflict: David Cameron humiliated after losing Commons vote on possible military action | Daily Mail Online
In short, leader of the opposition gets a privy councillors briefing and the Prime Minister acted in accordance with her remit? Is that what you're trying to say?
 
In short, leader of the opposition gets a privy councillors briefing and the Prime Minister acted in accordance with her remit? Is that what you're trying to say?
When it someone under the system's control ie Milipede it's only fair to get the whole int picture.
When there's an anti-war campaigner sitting in the opposite chair the rules suddenly change considerably.
 
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