Critically ill man 'former Russian spy' Part Two

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Since the Icke forum was mentioned up thread, I had a quick check today just now and they too have a thread on it.

Here we go again! Wiltshire pair poisoned by Novichok nerve agent - Page 10 - David Icke's Official Forums

All the usual suspicions, questions and inconsistencies are there that we've seen from some posters here.

It is funny what CTers pick up on as being suspicious and needs worrying over like a terrier after rats. This from St Jimmy's post today at 9:37am.

Am I the only one to find it suspicious that they call Salisbury “famous not just in Europe, but in the whole world”?
My thought would be, so what. That's what they said. In the context of what's happened it's probably what their masters have come up with to say as part of the script to justify them travelling all that way.

In as much as there's anything to be suspicious about, it's that the pair have been briefed what to say and not that they're innocent tourists.

But I'm guessing that st jimmy, who to me seems a knob of a CTer (it's not you is it 118 118?), is probably seeing something else in this. Probably part of the nefarious lizard illumaniti Bilderberg plot to suck the brains out of humans and take over the world.
 
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Ah yes thanks, I'm blaming the cold I'm suffering from.......... and the post alcoholic haze I had from my Kyiv trip. Mind you that was nearly two weeks ago so that's not an excuse to forget things.
 
The consensus has to be that 118118, KGB & the other fool haven't got a leg to stand on.
Have we not been saying that since a former Russian spy was poisoned with a Russian developed nerve agent after the Russian President said death to traitors?
 
The consensus has to be that 118118, KGB & the other fool haven't got a leg to stand on.
Have we not been saying that since a former Russian spy was poisoned with a Russian developed nerve agent after the Russian President said death to traitors?
Indeed, they have shot their bolt. As this dies down and fades into the memory hole so beloved of Russian "leaders" over the years, our three friends and a few others testing the water from the motherland, will come back and tell lies about other subjects. In the case of KGB, demanding politeness and good conduct from us. Course, he has never seen an angry man or someone kark it. He just writes propaganda to defend that which cannot be defended. What a spoon.
 
It is obvious that two highly "masculine" Russian gentlemen from Siberia are actually unable to handle the intensity of British cold weather, and are snowflakes when it comes to getting their toes cold in British slush, so retire to keep themselves warm and snuggly in a cheap flophouse, and used Novichok as a form of Deep Heat treatment.
Then return to tropical Moscow for borscht and medals, hoping the highly masculine Putin government didn't notice their dirty weekend holiday.
Isn't it romantic?



Or they might have been a pair of murdering Russian shits on a badly executed murder plot.
Strangely enough we had our Russian devs over in Mar, I had to escort one outside the building so he could have a faaaaaag and he was amazed that I was in a shirt - he had full puffa jacket and was shivering.
 
Good point. But I still don't understand why they used a nerve agent as a murder weapon. Why not just use a knife or strangle the guy in his sleep like what normal people do? It's almost like they were sending a message but that message would mean the truth had to come out. I'm guessing his daughter, Yulia Skripal, being involved while on holiday was part of the message.
The way the Russians (and formerly the Soviets) do things could be down to many reasons, some political and some just plain stupid.

Look at the way Trotsky died.
If he had died in a car crash, died of a heart attack or commited suicide that would have been seen as a personal or localised incident.

The way he died 100% let the world know who did it and was a 'pointer' that the (then) current communist way of thinking was the only acceptable way
 
The way the Russians (and formerly the Soviets) do things could be down to many reasons, some political and some just plain stupid.

Look at the way Trotsky died.
If he had died in a car crash, died of a heart attack or commited suicide that would have been seen as a personal or localised incident.

The way he died 100% let the world know who did it and was a 'pointer' that the (then) current communist way of thinking was the only acceptable way
It was indeed a pointer. An icepick. ^_^
 
Part of me feels the GRU, sorry, two innocent tourists missed a trick in not saying We went back because the receptionist at the hotel told us that we'd missed the chance to visit the home of the late Sir Edward Heath, which is another of Salisbury's many attractions'
 

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Funny that the two Russki wierdos never claimed to have been on a pilgrimage to see Magna Carta. But then MC is about rights against the ruler, and that wouldn't go down well in Russia.
 
Am I the only person here puzzled by the weirdness of the cover story given by these guys?
It's pretty amateurville to say the least.
I'm guessing they never thought all this would come out.

It should have been Russian guy, gets ill from Novichok, dies. Message done.

I don't think they ever thought all the CCTV and everything else would come out so now they have had to make up something. If Russia had said it wasn't them then more footage might emerge. I imagine MI5 has a lot now. So the best Russia can do is admit they were there and then come up with something but I don't think it was meant to be like this.
 
Isn't arrsch a robust forum able to handle varying POV's, while not having to use the thought-crime/ dissension line when members haven't broken any club-rules?
I'm sure someone mentioned this a while ago.

Poor old foxy, who's just asking for evidence/proof that any of this is as advertised, getting fitted-up as you lot of group-thinkers just couldn't beat him down.

Especially those calling for the monitors to intervene, akin to a 3yr old crying out for their mum.

You should be ashamed, if you can't act like a big boy and provide a good enough argument or any evidence/proof to support your views you should research till you can back up your points.

There are a few different themes that I'd like to break down but, for the moment, I'll just concentrate on this one.



On to the entry-phots from LGW supposedly from Fri 02/03/18, synchronised at precisely 16:22, 43.



Has anyone looked at the metadata from the issued phots? @spaz

Phot 1-' Petrov': Metadata For https://www.wiltshire.police.uk/media/2848/CO1416-2018-CCTV1/standard/CO1416-2018-CCTV1.jpg

Whoever is supposed to be 'Petrov', according to the metadata recorded from the above digital image actually had their phot taken on either the 5th March '18 or 3rd May '18 at 18:43, 50

https://www.wiltshire.police.uk/media/2848/CO1416-2018-CCTV1/standard/CO1416-2018-CCTV1.jpg

Modify Date 2018:09:05 02:24:35
Date/Time Original 2018:05:03 18:43:50
Create Date 2018:05:03 18:43:50

As for the metadata for the 'Boshirov' phot?

Metadata For https://www.wiltshire.police.uk/media/2843/CO1416-18-CCTV2/standard/CO1416-18-CCTV2.jpg

The metadata from that phot is recorded as the same day/date but 3hrs earlier!
5th March '18/ 3rd May '18 at 13:46, 30.


https://www.wiltshire.police.uk/media/2843/CO1416-18-CCTV2/standard/CO1416-18-CCTV2.jpg

Modify Date 2018:09:05 02:24:16
Date/Time Original 2018:05:03 13:46:30
Create Date 2018:05:03 13:46:30


By further examining the information from the metadata we can observe that both images were 'modified' on either the 9th May '18 (or on the same date that the Met released the phots) or... the 5th Sept 2018.

Both phots modified 19secs apart.
The same amount of time it would take to, say, change both time-stamps to the exact same time and provide a big, fat red-herring for sceptics to chase.

Both phots 'modified'at 02h24 in the morning then released to the public via this statement at 11h15 of the exact same day.
Counter-terrorism police release images of two suspects in connection with Salisbury attack
Counter-terrorism police release images of two suspects in connection with Salisbury attack
News • Sep 05, 2018 11:15 BST


If we are going to use 05/09/18 as the date that the phots were both modified this would then mean that both the phots from LGW were actually taken on the 3rd May of this year.
2 months after the 'dubious' hit in Salisbury.

If we are going to interpret the date format inversely the above LGW entry phots were captured 2 days after the 'hit' or the 5th March.

If any of you dared to go against the grain you'd already know all this and this would already be being discussed.
As it is...










.....Mushrooms sums it up nicely.
When the site’s admin informs us that some of those vehemently defending Russian aggression by means of lies, whataboutery, obfuscation and sheer bullshit, actually have Moscow ISP addresses, it is reasonable to ask whether we should provide a platform for them.
Do you think those two guys flew all the way from Russia to see “World famous Salisbury Cathedral”, to spend less than two hours in the city and missed the cathedral altogether!
You seem a bit gullible.

Don’t bother with the three-page reply: I, like I suspect most here, don’t bother to read them.
 
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