Critically ill man 'former Russian spy' Part Two

That makes sense if altering running footage to a fixed image.

The 2 Russians, who didn't use false passports to enter the UK, would have given all required information to the UK system for their visa and have admitted their movements and they fit with the narrative given by ukgov.
In 02/03/18.... out 04/03/18.

Many ukgov conspiracy-theories have just collapsed on the back of their testimony:
1. Their names are fake;
How clever technology could reveal Russian Novichok spies' REAL identities
2. Their faces will now have been altered.
3. The 2 shown are already dead.
Russian Novichok assassins 'could already be dead' says leading Putin critic


What doesn't make any sense though, is why/ how the synchronicity with the 'entry' phots.

Down to the second.

During the interview, the RT editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan also touched upon the picture of the two from the Gatwick airport.

She said: “Here is the picture that puzzled the whole world, Gatwick airport, you are leaving through a gate literally in the same times, precisely the same second. How did it happen?”


Boshirov replied said: “We always go together through the same corridor and the same custom service officer or a policeman.

“One goes, the other waits. We went through the corridor together, we always (do it) together. How did it happen? It’s better to ask them (UK police).”
Skripal suspects claim they were in Salisbury to see ‘Stonehenge'


What also doesn't make any sense is why the issued mug-shots were 'modified' early in the morning of the
exact same day that the Met issued them to the global press as suspects in this event.





What also makes no sense at all is if these gay-lovers were indeed in Salisbury, as they've already admitted, why did ukgov feel the need to photoshop certain images?
Note the white outline where an item has been cut/paste into position.




The red shows blended stones, the green shows the white line surrounding the outline; yellow shows a white area much brighter than the paving and blue shows a continued white line far too bright.



Initially the account of both Russians was highly improbable but seeing the storm of twitter posting, much of it from mainstream media journalists, which stated that individual things were impossible which were, in fact, not impossible at all.

Remember the 'Beast from the East' on 3rd and 4th March?
It is in fact absolutely true that, if the two had gone down to Salisbury on 3rd March, with the intention of going to Stonehenge, they would have been unable to get there because of the snow.
It is therefore perfectly possible that they went back the next day to try again; and public transport out of Salisbury was still severely disrupted, and many roads closed, on 4 March.
I can think of a million better things to be doing over a weekend in a foreign country than sitting on a train for a few hours and getting cold/wet... but... individual choices are individual choices.

Evidence of the weather condition is not at all difficult to confirm.





Those mocking the idea that the pair were blocked by snow from visiting Stonehenge have pointed to the CCTV footage of central Salisbury not showing snow on the afternoon of 4 March.
Well, that is central Salisbury, it had of course been salted and cleared.
Outside there were drifts.

So that part of their story in fact turns out not to be implausible as MSM is making out; in fact it fits precisely with the actual facts.

For the UK to verify it's facts in this matter they should release all running-footage and wheel out the Skripals.
After all, nothing to hide, nothing to fear is the phrase of the common era.

Where are the Skripals?
What actually happened to them?


You do realise it's 'highly-likely' these two are homosexual, don't you?
Not exactly welcomed in Vlad's domain but I'm pretty confidant he'll turn a blind-eye on this occasion.

The international press have also just deducted the same-
Novichok suspects ‘lovers not spies’

That would be quite a good cover but would also explain the amount of international trips these
'very close friends' go on.

As for the digs in London that the rozzers found traces of A-234 in back in May?

Why did they wait 4months before appealing for witnesses to notify plod??
http://www.itv.com/news/london/2018...rve-agent-attack-stayed-in-east-london-hotel/

Why was the whole subject kept quiet from the owner, workers and the paying clients??
Police didn’t warn Salisbury suspects’ hotel after finding novichok

I wonder what's going to be next in this very badly orchestrated smear-campaign that's being waged on Ru by ukgov and it's media whores?

In your own time....
Carry on.
You've just displayed the futile desperation of a conspiraloon in full keyboard bashing mode trying to maintaiin against the evidence that you still have a point.
 
That makes sense if altering running footage to a fixed image.

The 2 Russians, who didn't use false passports to enter the UK, would have given all required information to the UK system for their visa and have admitted their movements
Oh dear, he’s off. Who has said they’re fake passports?
Many ukgov conspiracy-theories have just collapsed on the back of their testimony:
1. Their names are fake;
2. Their faces will now have been altered.
3. The 2 shown are already dead.
Russian govt issue ‘real’ passports in false names for their agents. Even you must realise that
Remember the 'Beast from the East' on 3rd and 4th March?
Wasn’t it the ‘mini beast’?
It is in fact absolutely true that, if the two had gone down to Salisbury on 3rd March, with the intention of going to Stonehenge, they would have been unable to get there because of the snow.
Two Russian ‘lads’ or according to you ‘ex Para Reg’ looking ‘for fun’ are put off by some snow? Wow! All those stories we’ve heard from the Russians about how good they are fighting in winter must be ‘made up’ then?

Oh, anybody who has driven past Stonehenge knows you can see it from the ... errr ... road :rolleyes:

Funny how you take their story ‘word for word’ but won’t believe anything the U.K. govt says. It’s almost like it’s a conspiracy
 
Just seen this on the Telegraph comments page and made me smile.

Zoltan Vinegar 14 Sep 2018 8:57AM

Putin goes to Latvia.
Border guard: "Name?"
VP: "Vladimir Putin."
BG: "Occupation?"
VP: "No, just a holiday."
 
That makes sense if altering running footage to a fixed image.

The 2 Russians, who didn't use false passports to enter the UK, would have given all required information to the UK system for their visa and have admitted their movements and they fit with the narrative given by ukgov.
In 02/03/18.... out 04/03/18.

Many ukgov conspiracy-theories have just collapsed on the back of their testimony:
1. Their names are fake;
How clever technology could reveal Russian Novichok spies' REAL identities
2. Their faces will now have been altered.
3. The 2 shown are already dead.
Russian Novichok assassins 'could already be dead' says leading Putin critic


What doesn't make any sense though, is why/ how the synchronicity with the 'entry' phots.

Down to the second.

During the interview, the RT editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan also touched upon the picture of the two from the Gatwick airport.

She said: “Here is the picture that puzzled the whole world, Gatwick airport, you are leaving through a gate literally in the same times, precisely the same second. How did it happen?”

Boshirov replied said: “We always go together through the same corridor and the same custom service officer or a policeman.

“One goes, the other waits. We went through the corridor together, we always (do it) together. How did it happen? It’s better to ask them (UK police).”
Skripal suspects claim they were in Salisbury to see ‘Stonehenge'


What also doesn't make any sense is why the issued mug-shots were 'modified' early in the morning of the
exact same day that the Met issued them to the global press as suspects in this event.





What also makes no sense at all is if these gay-lovers were indeed in Salisbury, as they've already admitted, why did ukgov feel the need to photoshop certain images?
Note the white outline where an item has been cut/paste into position.




The red shows blended stones, the green shows the white line surrounding the outline; yellow shows a white area much brighter than the paving and blue shows a continued white line far too bright.



Initially the account of both Russians was highly improbable but seeing the storm of twitter posting, much of it from mainstream media journalists, which stated that individual things were impossible which were, in fact, not impossible at all.

Remember the 'Beast from the East' on 3rd and 4th March?
It is in fact absolutely true that, if the two had gone down to Salisbury on 3rd March, with the intention of going to Stonehenge, they would have been unable to get there because of the snow.
It is therefore perfectly possible that they went back the next day to try again; and public transport out of Salisbury was still severely disrupted, and many roads closed, on 4 March.
I can think of a million better things to be doing over a weekend in a foreign country than sitting on a train for a few hours and getting cold/wet... but... individual choices are individual choices.

Evidence of the weather condition is not at all difficult to confirm.





Those mocking the idea that the pair were blocked by snow from visiting Stonehenge have pointed to the CCTV footage of central Salisbury not showing snow on the afternoon of 4 March.
Well, that is central Salisbury, it had of course been salted and cleared.
Outside there were drifts.

So that part of their story in fact turns out not to be implausible as MSM is making out; in fact it fits precisely with the actual facts.

For the UK to verify it's facts in this matter they should release all running-footage and wheel out the Skripals.
After all, nothing to hide, nothing to fear is the phrase of the common era.

Where are the Skripals?
What actually happened to them?


You do realise it's 'highly-likely' these two are homosexual, don't you?
Not exactly welcomed in Vlad's domain but I'm pretty confidant he'll turn a blind-eye on this occasion.

The international press have also just deducted the same-
Novichok suspects ‘lovers not spies’

That would be quite a good cover but would also explain the amount of international trips these
'very close friends' go on.

As for the digs in London that the rozzers found traces of A-234 in back in May?

Why did they wait 4months before appealing for witnesses to notify plod??
http://www.itv.com/news/london/2018...rve-agent-attack-stayed-in-east-london-hotel/

Why was the whole subject kept quiet from the owner, workers and the paying clients??
Police didn’t warn Salisbury suspects’ hotel after finding novichok

I wonder what's going to be next in this very badly orchestrated smear-campaign that's being waged on Ru by ukgov and it's media whores?

In your own time....
Carry on.
Why did they cut and paste the old woman in the corner with white lines as well?
Why didn’t they use photoshop and blend?
Or is it just a CCTV video still and modern technology is rubbish

Modify time on the morning of release meaning it was copied/saved to produce the ‘media release pack’?


They are not being ridiculed for being unable to get to Stonehenge at all, but about how they got soaked in all the “town centre snow” and got lost in the direction of nowhere (aka the Skripal house) or perhaps the Stonehenge bus at the station was cancelled so they thought they would take a stroll up the A36 & A303 to Stonehenge because of busses couldn’t make it then harder Russians could - until they decided it was a bit damp
 
@184461
I remember the beast from the east in Salisbury very well
I’ll sort you out a selection of photos complete with time/date & locations

Only problem is they are too big to attach and I’m busy at the moment, I’ll get screen grabs with the info and compress them down later —— either that or I’m busy producing them in photoshop
 
Evidence of the weather condition is not at all difficult to confirm.





Those mocking the idea that the pair were blocked by snow from visiting Stonehenge have pointed to the CCTV footage of central Salisbury not showing snow on the afternoon of 4 March.
Well, that is central Salisbury, it had of course been salted and cleared.
Outside there were drifts.
C'mon 118, you're going to have to do better than this. This is not going to look good on your annual appraisal.

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This is the day your friends left Salisbury Railway Station, ignored the bus stop for the bus tour to Stonehenge, then turned West away from the Cathedral, which is Southeast of the station.
 
why did ukgov feel the need to photoshop certain images?
Note the white outline where an item has been cut/paste into position.




The red shows blended stones, the green shows the white line surrounding the outline; yellow shows a white area much brighter than the paving and blue shows a continued white line far too bright.
No, you stooge. The images are entirely consistent with crappy VHS tape, time lapse recording and a drop of rain on the camera.
 
Evidence of the weather condition is not at all difficult to confirm.

MS: OK, I get that. That was your plan. But what did you actually do? You arrived. There was heavy snowfall. No trains, nothing. So, what did you do?
AP: No, we arrived in Salisbury on March 3. We wanted to walk around the city but since the whole city was covered with snow, we spent only 30 minutes there. We were all wet.

RB: There are no pictures. The media, television – nobody talks about the fact that the transport system was paralyzed that day. It was impossible to get anywhere because of the snow. We were drenched up to our knees.
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They did try, it was very slushy though.
 
That makes sense if altering running footage to a fixed image.

The 2 Russians, who didn't use false passports to enter the UK, would have given all required information to the UK system for their visa and have admitted their movements and they fit with the narrative given by ukgov.
In 02/03/18.... out 04/03/18.

Many ukgov conspiracy-theories have just collapsed on the back of their testimony:
1. Their names are fake;
How clever technology could reveal Russian Novichok spies' REAL identities
2. Their faces will now have been altered.
3. The 2 shown are already dead.
Russian Novichok assassins 'could already be dead' says leading Putin critic


What doesn't make any sense though, is why/ how the synchronicity with the 'entry' phots.

Down to the second.

During the interview, the RT editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan also touched upon the picture of the two from the Gatwick airport.

She said: “Here is the picture that puzzled the whole world, Gatwick airport, you are leaving through a gate literally in the same times, precisely the same second. How did it happen?”

Boshirov replied said: “We always go together through the same corridor and the same custom service officer or a policeman.

“One goes, the other waits. We went through the corridor together, we always (do it) together. How did it happen? It’s better to ask them (UK police).”
Skripal suspects claim they were in Salisbury to see ‘Stonehenge'


What also doesn't make any sense is why the issued mug-shots were 'modified' early in the morning of the
exact same day that the Met issued them to the global press as suspects in this event.





What also makes no sense at all is if these gay-lovers were indeed in Salisbury, as they've already admitted, why did ukgov feel the need to photoshop certain images?
Note the white outline where an item has been cut/paste into position.




The red shows blended stones, the green shows the white line surrounding the outline; yellow shows a white area much brighter than the paving and blue shows a continued white line far too bright.



Initially the account of both Russians was highly improbable but seeing the storm of twitter posting, much of it from mainstream media journalists, which stated that individual things were impossible which were, in fact, not impossible at all.

Remember the 'Beast from the East' on 3rd and 4th March?
It is in fact absolutely true that, if the two had gone down to Salisbury on 3rd March, with the intention of going to Stonehenge, they would have been unable to get there because of the snow.
It is therefore perfectly possible that they went back the next day to try again; and public transport out of Salisbury was still severely disrupted, and many roads closed, on 4 March.
I can think of a million better things to be doing over a weekend in a foreign country than sitting on a train for a few hours and getting cold/wet... but... individual choices are individual choices.

Evidence of the weather condition is not at all difficult to confirm.





Those mocking the idea that the pair were blocked by snow from visiting Stonehenge have pointed to the CCTV footage of central Salisbury not showing snow on the afternoon of 4 March.
Well, that is central Salisbury, it had of course been salted and cleared.
Outside there were drifts.

So that part of their story in fact turns out not to be implausible as MSM is making out; in fact it fits precisely with the actual facts.

For the UK to verify it's facts in this matter they should release all running-footage and wheel out the Skripals.
After all, nothing to hide, nothing to fear is the phrase of the common era.

Where are the Skripals?
What actually happened to them?


You do realise it's 'highly-likely' these two are homosexual, don't you?
Not exactly welcomed in Vlad's domain but I'm pretty confidant he'll turn a blind-eye on this occasion.

The international press have also just deducted the same-
Novichok suspects ‘lovers not spies’

That would be quite a good cover but would also explain the amount of international trips these
'very close friends' go on.

As for the digs in London that the rozzers found traces of A-234 in back in May?

Why did they wait 4months before appealing for witnesses to notify plod??
http://www.itv.com/news/london/2018...rve-agent-attack-stayed-in-east-london-hotel/

Why was the whole subject kept quiet from the owner, workers and the paying clients??
Police didn’t warn Salisbury suspects’ hotel after finding novichok

I wonder what's going to be next in this very badly orchestrated smear-campaign that's being waged on Ru by ukgov and it's media whores?

In your own time....
Carry on.
You are wasted here.
Try the Comedy Store...
 
Complete conspiracy nonsense, is that the best you can do after having 24hrs to come up with something?
 
118's line that the pair DIDNT us fake names/passports made me laugh out loud.

Whoever is posting as 118 has absolutely no idea whatsoever if the names are genuine or not, and can't prove the facts either way. It's nothing more than pure guesswork.

They might have used their real names, they might not have, but 118 certainly has no access at all to the correct info.

We MUST bear in mind what 118 has previously said about the identities of the CW attackers, and wonder if his previous versions were also sold as 'fact'
 
Add on to post #606

118, you forgot to also mention the fact that the Russian state said it was pointless for Britain to use the names on the passports the pair used as Russia didn't recognise the names.

As Russia have said the names are fake does that mean that for once you are saying Russia has lied about this pair, and that in fact Russia knows that the names were real when a Russian state official said the names weren't real?
 
Out of the theme.
Suppose someone decides to spend weekend inLondon and visit one (most interesting) city or town nearby.
What do you recommend? What ARRSErs do recommend?
I hold in high esteem also opinion of overvalued moron.
Croydon. Outskirts of London, dead easy to get there, twenty minutes on the train - and Southern Rail, rather than South-West trains, so a far better and more reliable service. Culturally vibrant to an unbelievable degree. No cathedral as such, but the old Saxon church was designated a Minster in 2011, and acts as the seat for the Area Bishop of Croydon, so is almost a Cathedral.

As I say, Croydon. Well worth a two-day city break.
 
Isn't arrsch a robust forum able to handle varying POV's, while not having to use the thought-crime/ dissension line when members haven't broken any club-rules?
I'm sure someone mentioned this a while ago.
Robust enough to tolerate arse cavities like you and your fellow Russian trolls spouting your nonsense on it.

You simply serve to demonstrate what calibre of incompetent nincompoops are employed by Putin.
 
Am I the only person here puzzled by the weirdness of the cover story given by these guys?
It's pretty amateurville to say the least.

Me and me mate took a two day trip from Russia to UK specifically to see Salisbury Cathedral.
Arrived London 2 May. Attempted to see the cathedral on 3 May. Got there but didn't see it. Cold and wet.
Returned to Salisbury on 4 May despite still cold and wet then returned to London and flew back to Russia.

I mean it's like here's the story now prove we are lying. Well traces of Novichok was found in your hotel room. Errrr....Dunno about that comrade leave us alone.

And the justification for such an implausible trip? Salisbury cathedral is world famous. :salut:
 

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