Critically ill man 'former Russian spy' Part Two

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Oh dear.I wonder how our friends in St Petersburg will try to spin this?
  • Two Russian men named as suspects in the Salisbury novichok poisoning
  • The men are believed to have used the aliases Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov
  • Theresa May says the men are officers of the Russian military intelligence service, the GRU
  • Police release details of the two suspects' movements in Salisbury and London
  • The novichok was smuggled into the UK in a counterfeit Nina Ricci perfume bottle
  • Both men are accused of the attempted murder of Sergei and Yulia Skripal and police officer Nick Bailey
  • They are facing charges of conspiracy to murder Mr Skripal, the use of novichok and causing GBH
LIVE: Russian diplomat hauled in over novichok suspects
 
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Innocent until proven guilty of course

...... Now’s their chance to come over for a fair and open trial, they can even have free legal representation if they’d like
 
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Former Kremlin adviser Alexander Nekrassov told Sky News he had doubts about the two suspects being named as officers from the Russian military intelligence service.

"The first impression I got is that these two people are not professionals," he said.

"I'm sorry but two professional hitmen from a specialised intelligence service would not travel to London directly from Moscow and then walk about everywhere knowing perfectly well that there are cameras everywhere in Salisbury and then leave again directly to Moscow.

"I'm very surprised these allegedly GRU highly-trained individuals didn't even hide their identities, didn't even use any make up or anything, didn't change their appearance and wandering.

"It's like saying to them; 'Why don't you wave a Russian flag or something?'



For a long time it’s been said that Russia would be more professional, but it sends an open message, they came and went - and intend to be heroes of Russia with all the protection and denial that comes with being Russian. Just keep international travel to a minimum from now on

Naming suspects 'difficult to understand'

A Kremlin aide has said it is hard to understand what Britain is trying to signal to Russia by naming the two suspects.

Yuri Ushakov told reporters: "We have heard or seen two names, these names mean nothing to me personally.

"Especially since Scotland Yard has said these names were apparently aliases. I don't understand why this was done and what sort of signal the British side is sending.

"It is difficult to understand."


Can’t understand why the names given were the names used ..... perhaps Russia could now give the “assistance” they have been offering to identify any suspects and find out their real names .....
 
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Oh dear.I wonder how our friends in St Petersburg will try to spin this?
  • Two Russian men named as suspects in the Salisbury novichok poisoning
  • The men are believed to have used the aliases Alexander Petrov and Ruslan Boshirov
  • Theresa May says the men are officers of the Russian military intelligence service, the GRU
  • Police release details of the two suspects' movements in Salisbury and London
  • The novichok was smuggled into the UK in a counterfeit Nina Ricci perfume bottle
  • Both men are accused of the attempted murder of Sergei and Yulia Skripal and police officer Nick Bailey
  • They are facing charges of conspiracy to murder Mr Skripal, the use of novichok and causing GBH
LIVE: Russian diplomat hauled in over novichok suspects
The knowledge of these two was accidentally leaked a couple of months ago.
I tried to probe the trolls about the persons then back in Russia who the Brit government had known had come from Russia to Salisbury and then back to Russia..........funnily enough they blanked my questions despite me asking several times ;)

It was alluded to by an expert during a Radio 5 interview late at night, funnily enough the Beeb never replayed the interview :)
 
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Theresa May says the men are officers of the Russian military intelligence service, the GRU
That's what I call 'full and absolute degradation of the British Intelligence Service" . There are no such organisation as GRU since 2010. Now it's named "GU GSh". If those dégradants don't even know correct name of organisation - about what else we can talk?
 
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Proofs of their guilty are really great - "They are Russians, and they were at Salisbury". But British 'investigators' were not able even to found their fingerprints to share with allies or even British coppers to prevent further visits of those guys. Miserable show.
 

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That's what I call 'full and absolute degradation of the British Intelligence Service" . There are no such organisation as GRU since 2010. Now it's named "GU GSh". If those dégradants don't even know correct name of organisation - about what else we can talk?
A little bit like continuously using the phrase 'D Notice' then.
 
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That's what I call 'full and absolute degradation of the British Intelligence Service" . There are no such organisation as GRU since 2010. Now it's named "GU GSh". If those dégradants don't even know correct name of organisation - about what else we can talk?
G.R.U., Russian Spy Agency Cited by Mueller, Casts a Long Shadow
They’re still commonly referred to as GRU:
Though still commonly referred to as the G.R.U., or Main Intelligence Directorate, the agency in 2010 changed its name to the Main Directorate, or G.U. As before, it is subordinate to the Russian military command.
What's In a Name? | MI5 - The Security Service
It’s a bit like calling MI5... err ... MI5:
1931
The Defence Security Service becomes the Security Service, the name by which it is still known today. However, "MI5" is still widely used as a short alternative to our official name.
 

LancePrivateJones

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Proofs of their guilty are really great - "They are Russians, and they were at Salisbury"..
They flew in from Russia on Russian passports and they were in Salisbury all right, twice in fact and it is all on camera. They were even caught on camera near Skripal's house.
They landed on Friday and flew back on Sunday, maybe they were looking for a stag or hen function to attend in Wiltshire and missed the party, maybe.
Short weekend in England from Russia? Happens all the time :roll:

But British 'investigators' were not able even to found their fingerprints to share with allies or even British coppers to prevent further visits of those guys. Miserable show.
How do you know about any fingerprints?
I would imagine their hotel room was covered in them.

Please carry on because I could do with a laugh and you are truly laughable.
 
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Proofs of their guilty are really great - "They are Russians, and they were at Salisbury". But British 'investigators' were not able even to found their fingerprints to share with allies or even British coppers to prevent further visits of those guys. Miserable show.
They can respond to the evidence in court
 

LancePrivateJones

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Commonly referred as GRU by the laymen. Professionals use correct names, especially in an official speech of the State leader. And yes, if they don't see the difference between GRU and GU, may be they don't see the difference between GRU and GUR (Ukrainian Military Intelligence). Who knows?
So it was the Ukrainians then?

Naughty Ukrainians.
 
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Commonly referred as GRU by the laymen. Professionals use correct names, especially in an official speech of the State leader. And yes, if they don't see the difference between GRU and GU, may be they don't see the difference between GRU and GUR (Ukrainian Military Intelligence). Who knows?
The reference comes from Mueller’s enquiry

Kremlin pours cold water on MI5 chief's claims of Russian threat
It’s not as if Russia is immune to making such mistakes:
“I would like to ask the head of MI5 if he also sees the hand of the Kremlin in the appointment of Boris Johnson as head of the Foreign Office,” said Maria Zakharova, spokeswoman for Russia’s foreign ministry. She declined to comment further.
From the Russian Embassy:
Director General of MI5 Parker interview for @Guardian: saddened to see a professional trapped to his own propaganda-created world
 
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LancePrivateJones

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Who knows? May be, she meant GRU as Gated recurrent unit - Wikipedia
and it was just a larva of Terminator, sended by Skynet from the future.
Maybe she just meant the GRU which as we all know is one of your spook organisations.
Just like our MI5 which isn't actually called MI5 but everybody still calls them that.
Just like our MI6 which isn't actually called MI6 but everybody still calls them that.

That GRU.
 
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