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#1
anyone played this game its ment to be the most demading game computer power wise on the market and is a good way of testing your computers preformance. i bought it today with my new computer but have to wait a week to get my computer cause i ordered a nivida 768 mb 8800 ultra graphics card and they have to order it in to the store
 
#5
what is the difference in between 768 mb 8800 ultra graphics card and an ati 1900 xtx ? Apart from one having 512 and the other 756mb mem.... Do you think I'll see a massive change in performance for this game?
 
#6
ICShiiteJobs said:
what is the difference in between 768 mb 8800 ultra graphics card and an ati 1900 xtx ? Apart from one having 512 and the other 756mb mem.... Do you think I'll see a massive change in performance for this game?
Unfortunately thats not exactly an easy question answer. Technically the 8800 is a far superior card as it is the next generation. The amount of MB a crad has is not a direct guide to how good it is (I used to have a 512Mb 6200 lol) It also comes down to things like number of shader units, pipelines, blah blah blah.

however ....... The 8800 is a DX10 card and at the moment there are huge performance problems with DX10, so if you have a 8800 and are running XP (and therefore DX 9), you will definitely see a difference in performance over the ATi 1900. However if you are running Vista and run the Game under DX10, the performance increase MAY not be as markededly obvious.

I say this as one who has a 8800 Ulta Pre Overclocked, however I havent had chance to play any demanding games on it yet :cry:
 
#7
Just too add , the 8800 does perform better than the 1900 on DX9 as well , especially at higher screen resoloutions because of its architecture , its can change the number of piplines used to draw different objects on the screen dependent on what its being told to draw, where the 1900 cant. Effectively this means the entire 8800 card will work at once - while the 1900 will put a ton of strain on a few dedicated pipes , leaving others idle , while the 8800's pipes can do it all , lessening the choke factor and speeding up the draw rates - meaning you get higher FPS , which means its smoother and more playable :wink:

You will definately see a hike in performance if you are using vista , as the game will run in Direct X 10 (only real selling point of vista imo ) if youre playing on XP then the 8800 will be marginally better fps wise - especially if your playing on high resoloutions (big monitor) with all the bells and whistles turned on (AA , AF) .

Oh and Ive heard you cant chop down trees with the minigun , or blow shit up quite as spectacularly in DX9 ( XP ) as the physics engine cant run as fully as it can on vista , so no blowing the support beams out of shacks and it all falling apart in individual bits , which is a shame . But not really worth shelling you £100 for vista , just for some extra wow factor on 1 game.
 
#9
Not for a good few years yet , games delelopers would be shooting themselves in the foot if they made DX10 only combatible games - the vast majority of people dont have enough disposable income to spend about £300+ to upgrade thier PCs . It'll be years before that happens - look at most games now , almost all of them are compatible with windows 98/2000 - almost a decade on. I know im not shelling out alot of cash just to play a couple of games any time soon anyway.
 
#12
IT_GEEK said:
ICShiiteJobs said:
what is the difference in between 768 mb 8800 ultra graphics card and an ati 1900 xtx ? Apart from one having 512 and the other 756mb mem.... Do you think I'll see a massive change in performance for this game?
Unfortunately thats not exactly an easy question answer. Technically the 8800 is a far superior card as it is the next generation. The amount of MB a crad has is not a direct guide to how good it is (I used to have a 512Mb 6200 lol) It also comes down to things like number of shader units, pipelines, blah blah blah.

however ....... The 8800 is a DX10 card and at the moment there are huge performance problems with DX10, so if you have a 8800 and are running XP (and therefore DX 9), you will definitely see a difference in performance over the ATi 1900. However if you are running Vista and run the Game under DX10, the performance increase MAY not be as markededly obvious.

I say this as one who has a 8800 Ulta Pre Overclocked, however I havent had chance to play any demanding games on it yet :cry:

er....my cats breath smells of fish. 8O
 
#14
datumhead said:
IT_GEEK said:
ICShiiteJobs said:
what is the difference in between 768 mb 8800 ultra graphics card and an ati 1900 xtx ? Apart from one having 512 and the other 756mb mem.... Do you think I'll see a massive change in performance for this game?
Unfortunately thats not exactly an easy question answer. Technically the 8800 is a far superior card as it is the next generation. The amount of MB a crad has is not a direct guide to how good it is (I used to have a 512Mb 6200 lol) It also comes down to things like number of shader units, pipelines, blah blah blah.

however ....... The 8800 is a DX10 card and at the moment there are huge performance problems with DX10, so if you have a 8800 and are running XP (and therefore DX 9), you will definitely see a difference in performance over the ATi 1900. However if you are running Vista and run the Game under DX10, the performance increase MAY not be as markededly obvious.

I say this as one who has a 8800 Ulta Pre Overclocked, however I havent had chance to play any demanding games on it yet :cry:

er....my cats breath smells of fish. 8O
:D I did try to keep it simple, hence the blah blah blah lol
 
#15
Civi_Git said:
Just too add , the 8800 does perform better than the 1900 on DX9 as well , especially at higher screen resoloutions because of its architecture , its can change the number of piplines used to draw different objects on the screen dependent on what its being told to draw, where the 1900 cant. Effectively this means the entire 8800 card will work at once - while the 1900 will put a ton of strain on a few dedicated pipes , leaving others idle , while the 8800's pipes can do it all , lessening the choke factor and speeding up the draw rates - meaning you get higher FPS , which means its smoother and more playable :wink:

You will definately see a hike in performance if you are using vista , as the game will run in Direct X 10 (only real selling point of vista imo ) if youre playing on XP then the 8800 will be marginally better fps wise - especially if your playing on high resoloutions (big monitor) with all the bells and whistles turned on (AA , AF) .

Oh and Ive heard you cant chop down trees with the minigun , or blow shit up quite as spectacularly in DX9 ( XP ) as the physics engine cant run as fully as it can on vista , so no blowing the support beams out of shacks and it all falling apart in individual bits , which is a shame . But not really worth shelling you £100 for vista , just for some extra wow factor on 1 game.
ACtually Civi Git, I disagree with you, and that was the point of my whole post. All the data and reviews I have seen (and there is an in depth review of DX9 versus DX10 in this montsh PC format) show that an ATI1950 card running a game in DX9 will outperform an 8000 series card running the same game in DX10. The only time this doenst often occur is when using the top oif the range 8800, but even then the fps difference is often negligable. Another reason developers are slow on the uptake for DX10 only games. (To be fair there are exceptions to this, but most times, DX9 beats DX 10 by a fair margin)
 
#17
IT_GEEK said:
Civi_Git said:
Just too add , the 8800 does perform better than the 1900 on DX9 as well , especially at higher screen resoloutions because of its architecture , its can change the number of piplines used to draw different objects on the screen dependent on what its being told to draw, where the 1900 cant. Effectively this means the entire 8800 card will work at once - while the 1900 will put a ton of strain on a few dedicated pipes , leaving others idle , while the 8800's pipes can do it all , lessening the choke factor and speeding up the draw rates - meaning you get higher FPS , which means its smoother and more playable :wink:

You will definately see a hike in performance if you are using vista , as the game will run in Direct X 10 (only real selling point of vista imo ) if youre playing on XP then the 8800 will be marginally better fps wise - especially if your playing on high resoloutions (big monitor) with all the bells and whistles turned on (AA , AF) .

Oh and Ive heard you cant chop down trees with the minigun , or blow shit up quite as spectacularly in DX9 ( XP ) as the physics engine cant run as fully as it can on vista , so no blowing the support beams out of shacks and it all falling apart in individual bits , which is a shame . But not really worth shelling you £100 for vista , just for some extra wow factor on 1 game.
ACtually Civi Git, I disagree with you, and that was the point of my whole post. All the data and reviews I have seen (and there is an in depth review of DX9 versus DX10 in this montsh PC format) show that an ATI1950 card running a game in DX9 will outperform an 8000 series card running the same game in DX10. The only time this doenst often occur is when using the top oif the range 8800, but even then the fps difference is often negligable. Another reason developers are slow on the uptake for DX10 only games. (To be fair there are exceptions to this, but most times, DX9 beats DX 10 by a fair margin)
Well ill agree to disagree i think mate , from what ive heard anyway , the 8800 series outpreforms the 1900 (even though the 1900 is a great card for DX 9- and now going for an awesome price on most net retailers) but then again , the majority of people i know that play with these cards are playing on 20+ inch monitors and can really be defined as "power users" Id
recon you may well be right about the neglible difference with the 1900 on lower settings/spec PC , but i think the differnece is more noticeble the further uo the scale you go :wink:
 
#18
Maybe, I will let you know, as I have the 8800 ulta pre overclocked with a 22 inch widescreen monitor :p
 
#19
Check this link out

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=125169

For normal users, ignore any of the graphs running at 2560 x 1600

As you can see, the 8800 does outperform the 1950, but at resolutions of 1600 x1200 and below, not by much, considering the 1950 can be brought for under £100 and the 8800 ultra is still over £400

So bang for buck, the 8800 ultra is just not worth it. Its nice for bragging rights :D , I had the cash at the time and went for it, but I am honest enough to tell everyone else, dont bother
 

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