Crimea: US ship sparks anti-NATO protests

#2
Let me see if I understand this, a ship with a cargo of building materials comes into port. Then a "Anti-NATO" demonstration begins because of cinder blocks? Donated at that? Hmm.... thats Logical. :roll:
 
#3
Probably got their own western style rent-a-protest.
 
#4
LineDoggie said:
Let me see if I understand this, a ship with a cargo of building materials comes into port. Then a "Anti-NATO" demonstration begins because of cinder blocks[/b[? Donated at that? Hmm.... thats Logical. :roll:


Cinder blocks?

http://www.regnum.ru/english/648779.html

US Advanyage navy vessel delivered troops and armaments to the port of Feodosia.
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two more vessels are heading towards Crimea. In connection with the fact that Ukraine has a non-allied status and the country’s parliament did not approve the president’s decision to allow access to the Ukrainian territory of foreign military units, we consider the arrival of the US military vessel to Feodosia as a cynical neglect for the Ukrainian Constitution, violation of fundamental national laws.
Indeed, according to Ukrainian laws, any presence of foreign troops on Ukrainian territory must be approved by the parliament. There was no such an approval toward American troops.

http://www.regnum.ru/english/649244.html

NATO military cargos, assigned for Sea Breeze – 2006 maneuvers, and, as a number of local legislators assured, for construction of NATO base in Old Crimea’s military training ground too, continued to be blocked.

Several indirect facts confirm long-term aim of NATO presence in Crimean peninsular. For example, no contraceptives are necessary during short-term maneuvers. Staying in the territory of the port of Feodosia, Ukrainian Presidential Envoy in Crimea Gennady Moskal said on air of Inter TV-Channel, as well as for other mass media, that “if the Supreme Rada (Ukrainian Parliament) decides not to conduct the maneuvers, it is the Supreme Rada’s right. In such case, the whole equipment becomes the Ukrainian property.” He added, smiling: “…and contraceptives too
 
#5
Ah! They have condoms - so they must be planning to stay, and start a family! Sergey, it's too early in the day to start on the vodka..
 
#8
Feodosia Russian Community Chairwoman Nelli Protasova stated at a news conference in Simferopol that “pregnancy tests” are listed as cargo too (she refused to explain, where she obtained the cargo list from). “It means; they are going to live here for a very long time, using our women,” Protasova stated.
That’s it; they are coming just to use your women. Wonder how many women would jump at the chance of hooking a yank for a new life in the “land of the free” with washing machines, Hollywood and all the other dreams.

As for condoms, 4 week exercise in Demark and we were handing out boxes of 100.

Lets play to the ignorant peasants and use half-truths. Did it not occur to any one that the US army has women in it and they may require the pregnancy test kits?
 
#9
KGB_resident said:
http://5tv.com.ua/eng/newsline/184/0/26141/

Over the weekend, the arrival of a US ship in Crimea sparked anti-NATO protests on the peninsula.

Over the weekend, the arrival of a US ship in Crimea sparked anti-NATO protests on the peninsula.
Shall we bet money that these "anti-Nato" protesters were mostly ethnic Russians from Crimea and eastern Ukraine? I doubt there were many from Lvov attending! Is this the work of the KGB's successor?
 
#10
Virgil said:
KGB_resident said:
http://5tv.com.ua/eng/newsline/184/0/26141/

Over the weekend, the arrival of a US ship in Crimea sparked anti-NATO protests on the peninsula.

Over the weekend, the arrival of a US ship in Crimea sparked anti-NATO protests on the peninsula.
Shall we bet money that these "anti-Nato" protesters were mostly ethnic Russians from Crimea and eastern Ukraine? I doubt there were many from Lvov attending! Is this the work of the KGB's successor?
This article from the Kyiv Post makes it a bit clearer:

(AP) Pro-Russian opposition parties on Tuesday railed against President Viktor Yushchenko's government for allowing a U.S. naval ship to enter a Ukrainian port, calling it a threat to the nation.

The USS Advantage's arrival in the Crimean port of Feodosiya this weekend sparked protests and left the government scrambling to explain that it was coming as part of NATO's Partnership for Peace program and was only bringing equipment for exercises this summer in the Black Sea.

Yushchenko wants this ex-Soviet republic to join NATO, but the military alliance remains deeply unpopular here, particularly in the largely Russian-speaking east and south.

Or this article:

The Sunday night protest was sparked by the arrival at the port of Feodosiya of the USS Advantage, which was to take part in an NATO-sponsored exercises this summer, Ukrainian naval spokesman Volodymyr Bova said, speaking by telephone from the Black Sea port of Sevastopol.

Russia's NTV television showed several dozen local residents trying to prevent cargo trucks from unloading equipment from a ship, while others held banners reading "Russia is a Friend! NATO is the Enemy!" and accused NATO of trying to open a base on the Black Sea peninsula.
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Bova said the protesters were mostly supporters of a small radical pro-Russian party that fared poorly in March parliamentary elections, along with activists from the Party of the Regions, the election's top vote-getter and an opponent to Ukraine's integration with the alliance.
 
#11
Dear Virgil,

Ta a bunch for that, me ole Septic China. Goes a long way to make more sense of the matter!

MsG
 
#12
Virgil said:
KGB_resident said:
http://5tv.com.ua/eng/newsline/184/0/26141/

Over the weekend, the arrival of a US ship in Crimea sparked anti-NATO protests on the peninsula.

Over the weekend, the arrival of a US ship in Crimea sparked anti-NATO protests on the peninsula.
Shall we bet money that these "anti-Nato" protesters were mostly ethnic Russians from Crimea and eastern Ukraine? I doubt there were many from Lvov attending! Is this the work of the KGB's successor?
Virgil!

Majority in Crimea are ethnically Russians. The protesters are mainly locals. I suppose that there would be no problems in Lvov.
 
#13
KGB_resident
Indeed, according to Ukrainian laws, any presence of foreign troops on Ukrainian territory must be approved by the parliament. There was no such an approval toward American troops.
Presuamably this law wasn't in affect during the years 1922-1991.
 
#14
offog said:
Feodosia Russian Community Chairwoman Nelli Protasova stated at a news conference in Simferopol that “pregnancy tests” are listed as cargo too (she refused to explain, where she obtained the cargo list from). “It means; they are going to live here for a very long time, using our women,” Protasova stated.
That’s it; they are coming just to use your women. Wonder how many women would jump at the chance of hooking a yank for a new life in the “land of the free” with washing machines, Hollywood and all the other dreams...
I wonder who's using who. I dated a few Russian and Ukranian women when I lived in Kyiv and St. Pete's. Damn, if they aren't the most beautiful women in the world, smart as whips and know exactly what they want. You will find very few single male Americans or Brits for that matter living in big expat communities in Moscow.

There's a joke one female Russian friend of mine told me. Two young Russian woman are talking and one says "I'd like to marry the man I fall in love with". The other turns to her and says "I will too if I can't find anyone better".
 
#16
Bravo_Bravo said:
we really do not care, Tovarich.
Meanwhile



The Russian Federation frigate RFS Pitliviy and the NATO frigate HMS Nottingham berthed side-by-side at Souda, Greece. RFS Pitliviy is conducting Mission Oriented Training with NATO from 19 May to 4 June 2006 to continue preparations for participation in NATO's anti-terrorism Operation Active Endeavour. HMS Nottingham acts as host ship and training partner during a port visit at Souda and the subsequent at-sea training phase.
 
#18
Krivak?

Surprised by the Ukraine bit. CalGuard is sending a sizeable contingent over that direction in a month or two for joint military exercises. CalGuard and the Ukrainian military have been partners in training for several years.

NTM
 
#19
California_Tanker said:
Krivak?

Surprised by the Ukraine bit. CalGuard is sending a sizeable contingent over that direction in a month or two for joint military exercises. CalGuard and the Ukrainian military have been partners in training for several years.

NTM
I worked at the US Embassy Kiev in the early 90's for the Defense Attache so I learned a bit about the country. Ukraine's divided into to two general groups with ethnic Ukrainians in the north and west portions of the country and ethnic Russians in the south and east. The most nationalist Ukes are the catholics in the west centered in Lvov/Lviv. They're anti-Russian and pro-western, and a lot of them have family who immigrated to Canada, US and Australia. Crimea is essentially a part of Russia that thanks to Kruschev was put under Ukrainian control in the 50's. A move I'm sure most Russians who live there now regret and of course that's where the demonstrations against NATO are based.

This election map from 2004 also reflects to a large part the ethnic make-up of Ukraine, the orange areas being predominately Ukrainian and the blue being a majority Russian.

 

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