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Crime figures up and police numbers at their lowest level since 1985

The linked article is absolutely spot on.
I am fortunate that I am on a specialist department, and have the best job in the force in my opinion, however even so I have never seen morale so low on my team. We are daily expected to go out and deal with the most dangerous offenders, be on call (on paper one week in three....in reality every other week.), be the answer to high threat problems, with the shadow of an IOPC referral for doing our job. All the while the future of our team is uncertain. Just last week an ACC in a meeting asked 'Why should we keep....name of team.....then?'
There's money to be saved, and on paper we are expensive. Mostly due to the extra hours we work to keep the wheel on, and the cost to train us in the skills needed when it all goes wrong.
All of which would still need doing by someone.
And if morale is low on my team I can't begin to imagine what it's like on response shifts.
As the article says.....organisationally we are shocking. But there are a lot of dedicated men and women who keep turning out to help others in spite of contempt from management and public.
Someone's got to keep the kids safe!
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You certainly do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to ponder about important stuff. ;)
I find that when I explain things right the first time to my users, they leave me alone to get on with that which I find genuinely interesting....
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She will never have any interaction with a scrote.
Oh I don't know, there used to be a certain competition at CID Parties for bagging the highest rank....
 
Oh I don't know, there used to be a certain competition at CID Parties for bagging the highest rank....
Col Nathan R. Jessup Walt ;)

"There's nothing sexier, gentlemen, than a woman you have to salute in the morning. Promote 'em all, I say, because if you haven't had a blow-job from a superior officer, why you're just letting the best of life pass you by".
 
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I wonder what other bad news was burried under all the Brexit rubbish.


Hey, it's not like the police budget is stretched.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Never mind, crime is down, the direct entry bosses and shake and bake DC's have it all under control - so you wouldn't have needed the capability that money would have bought anyway.
 
Excellent article, 'vulnerable' is one of the tags I hate that gets added to almost every bloody log either the call handler gives them it or they proclaim it in the naïve belief it produced better results from the broken system.

I discovered my way round 'vulnerable' thanks to following the book, well a book, no idea which particular policy it was now but I found a definition buried away which foolishly included the sensible words 'at risk of serious harm or
exploitation'.

Mrs Miggins who's vulnerable as shes elderly (at 65) is not vulnerable because she is aware of the boy racers across the road in the supermarket carpark.

As I like to type up my own logs adding 'doesn't fit force definition of vulnerable' and then quote it. That gets it past the call hander and the log checking Nazis are derailed by a policy document and cant send to back to me to complete a pointless bit of paperwork.

I do my best to spread the word to my peers, but often they're that browbeaten that just because a Sgt, call handler or if your really naughty, call handler supervisor and then the FIM tell you to fill in the form they do. But then I often suspect I spend more time finding legitimate reasons not to fill in a form, that will make no difference to anyone other than to tick a box at HQ, than I would than simply filling in another pointless bit of paperwork.
 
I wonder what other bad news was burried under all the Brexit rubbish.


Hey, it's not like the police budget is stretched.

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Never mind, crime is down, the direct entry bosses and shake and bake DC's have it all under control - so you wouldn't have needed the capability that money would have bought anyway.
The slow motion car crash that the airwave replacement is becoming runs across the emergency services. It’s not like anyone could see it coming. :roll:
Home office drops the ball
 
Excellent article, 'vulnerable' is one of the tags I hate that gets added to almost every bloody log either the call handler gives them it or they proclaim it in the naïve belief it produced better results from the broken system.

I discovered my way round 'vulnerable' thanks to following the book, well a book, no idea which particular policy it was now but I found a definition buried away which foolishly included the sensible words 'at risk of serious harm or
exploitation'.

Mrs Miggins who's vulnerable as shes elderly (at 65) is not vulnerable because she is aware of the boy racers across the road in the supermarket carpark.

As I like to type up my own logs adding 'doesn't fit force definition of vulnerable' and then quote it. That gets it past the call hander and the log checking Nazis are derailed by a policy document and cant send to back to me to complete a pointless bit of paperwork.

I do my best to spread the word to my peers, but often they're that browbeaten that just because a Sgt, call handler or if your really naughty, call handler supervisor and then the FIM tell you to fill in the form they do. But then I often suspect I spend more time finding legitimate reasons not to fill in a form, that will make no difference to anyone other than to tick a box at HQ, than I would than simply filling in another pointless bit of paperwork.
I take it that L.O.B. no longer meets the requirements when responding to a request for a result
 
I take it that L.O.B. no longer meets the requirements when responding to a request for a result
Oh my dude - blast from the past there.

Bit long towards the end of a shift, "Anyone been done X, Y, Z Road lately?"

"Yep, ASNT"

"Thanks, log to be closed"

But hey, the direct entry Force Incident Manager will send an email "For Strict Compliance"
 
For readers who are not job, here's a story that whilst bad many in (and ex-) will just shrug and say "yeah, sounds right".

So after initially not being a good enough case to prosecute, the CPS put the PC on trial for ABH and the jury kicked it out in 20 minutes (I don't think you can do more than elect a foreperson, boil the kettle and say "This is all a LOB, right" in 20 minutes).

Bit the IPPC (and whatever it is called in now) persisted (never let an acquittal get in the way of the "right result", and the officer has been on suspended or on restricted duties since March 2015.... until now.

PC whose life was ‘blighted’ by IPCC for 7 years can finally wed

Oh, and once of the IPPC "Commissioners" involved stepped down after credible allegations of perverting the course of justice were made (this commissioner was also invovled in the separate somewhat controversial "investigation" into the use of force agains a black firefighter).

Pair removed after Police Scotland race row investigation

So gone on then, join the job. Expose yourself to that risk of assault, contagious disease, and legal jeapardy in a every more demanding service.

Police: Could You? Ho Ho Ho. Most of the bosses couldn't, wouldn';t and didn't - which is why they got promoted away from real work as soon as practicable.
 
Police: Could You? Ho Ho Ho. Most of the bosses couldn't, wouldn';t and didn't - which is why they got promoted away from real work as soon as practicable.

This is also true across the whole of the rest of the public sector and politics. With PC agendas being turned into legislation, its also now spreading across what used to be the "private" sector as well.

The Police are just a microcosm of a society that punishes aspiration and merit, but rewards mediocrity and politicking.
 
For readers who are not job, here's a story that whilst bad many in (and ex-) will just shrug and say "yeah, sounds right".

So after initially not being a good enough case to prosecute, the CPS put the PC on trial for ABH and the jury kicked it out in 20 minutes (I don't think you can do more than elect a foreperson, boil the kettle and say "This is all a LOB, right" in 20 minutes).

Bit the IPPC (and whatever it is called in now) persisted (never let an acquittal get in the way of the "right result", and the officer has been on suspended or on restricted duties since March 2015.... until now.

PC whose life was ‘blighted’ by IPCC for 7 years can finally wed

Oh, and once of the IPPC "Commissioners" involved stepped down after credible allegations of perverting the course of justice were made (this commissioner was also invovled in the separate somewhat controversial "investigation" into the use of force agains a black firefighter).

Pair removed after Police Scotland race row investigation

So gone on then, join the job. Expose yourself to that risk of assault, contagious disease, and legal jeapardy in a every more demanding service.

Police: Could You? Ho Ho Ho. Most of the bosses couldn't, wouldn';t and didn't - which is why they got promoted away from real work as soon as practicable.
I said this in another Thread, but it bears repeating: a job that is often unpleasant at best, life-threatening at worst. Low pay for what the job often entails and crap terms and conditions. Understaffed and poorly equipped. No support from senior officers and politicians, who will happily hang you out to dry to save their own skins. No respect from the violent underclass you have to deal with, because they know there are few real consequences to breaking the law, except for the most serious crimes. And the law-abiding majority blaming the coppers on the ground for abandoning them and not focusing on catching, "real criminals" instead of someone saying nasty words on Facebollacks. When operational priorities are set by senior police and politicians...and they care even less about the public than the coppers on the front line.

Good luck to anyone who joins a police force - sorry, service :rolleyes: - but to be honest, I'd have to question their sanity.
 
Good luck to anyone who joins a police force - sorry, service :rolleyes: - but to be honest, I'd have to question their sanity.
My wife informs me that due to the telly show The Bodyguard,applications to join the police are on the rise!
And I know it is fiction, but I saw some of an old episode of CSINewYork yesterday.Part of the story involved some bloke gaining access to a police station that he should not have been able to do.Mac the detective had a rant at the Chief about a 'warm body with a badge' replacing experienced police officers.The Chiefs response was that he could have three civilians for the price of one officer.
Art imitating life?
 
My wife informs me that due to the telly show The Bodyguard,applications to join the police are on the rise!
And, applications to Security Service spiked after Spooks aired.

Both are hardly accurate dipictions of the working enviroment.

Not that I care, I only watched it to fapp off to Keeley Hawes.



I like the stern office look a bit more than the below. I can only imagine a few hours in the back of a OP van with her..... and back in the room.

 
Sounds like many jobs in the public sector. Those who can’t cope with difficulties (dole office, social workers, accident investigators etc etc) go in to “policy” or “leadership” as soon as possible.


I’d like to see everyone in any management position contractually obliged to do 2 x week-long or shift patterns per year at the sharp end.

Head of the DWP civil service dept? Get on a desk in Middlesbrough, Monday -Friday. Go.


Oh, you’re leading transformational change in adolescent care in Blankshire? Cool. Come with us to take an abused 9 year old off her alcoholic Dad.

I’m sure the bobbies have better examples.
 
It certainly beats the circa 1% received in England and Wales.

I wonder if Scottish Regiments will receive such a large increase?
 
Or is the reporting and recording of crime getting better?
Have you tried reporting a crime lately? 101 is a joke, no one answers and Police Officers and PCSOs turn up after about three days with a crime number and a lot of excuses. I would say its funny but its not, not for the Police and certainly not for us.
 
Have you tried reporting a crime lately? 101 is a joke, no one answers and Police Officers and PCSOs turn up after about three days with a crime number and a lot of excuses. I would say its funny but its not, not for the Police and certainly not for us.
Several times, maybe because I live in Durham I have one of the best police services in the country.
 
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