Cranks and Crazies have taken over the Republicans

#2
The US of A is like a bowl of muesli, a mixture of everything, but, take away the fruits and the flakes and all you've got left is the nuts.
 

Bouillabaisse

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#3
Why do non-US politicians believe they have right to interfere or comment on the US election process? There'd be hell to pay if a senior US politician commented on the relative merits of various parties in a non-US election.
 
#4
Why do non-US politicians believe they have right to interfere or comment on the US election process? There'd be hell to pay if a senior US politician commented on the relative merits of various parties in a non-US election.
Because everyone else has to deal with the fallout. Google "Superpower".
 
#5
Do you not have a little thing called the freedom of speech in the US? We have it too, which is why when the Republican party seems to be run by a bunch of lunatics to the outside world and they have a shot at getting the chief lunatic into the most powerful political position on the planet (or at least for a short time to come anyway) then the rest of the planet gets a bit twitchy.

Given the Aussie propensity for saying what they think, then how is this a surprise?
 
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#7
It may affect them but that's tough. The world is not a democracy If you want a say in who's president of the USA become an American. Otherwise shut up and live with it. Swan's going to have to crawl on his belly if Romney wins.
 
#8
Why do non-US politicians believe they have right to interfere or comment on the US election process? There'd be hell to pay if a senior US politician commented on the relative merits of various parties in a non-US election.
Probably because the US politicians seem to feel they have the right to not only comment but actively get involved in what other countries do upto and including invading if they dont like your choice of leader.
 
#9
It may affect them but that's tough. The world is not a democracy If you want a say in who's president of the USA become an American. Otherwise shut up and live with it. Swan's going to have to crawl on his belly if Romney wins.
And pigs will be flying overhead.
 
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Why do non-US politicians believe they have right to interfere or comment on the US election process? There'd be hell to pay if a senior US politician commented on the relative merits of various parties in a non-US election.
I seem to recall that were are all currently dealing with the rather unpleasant fallout of the Yanks obsessive regime changing ways.
 
#11
It may affect them but that's tough. The world is not a democracy If you want a say in who's president of the USA become an American. Otherwise shut up and live with it. Swan's going to have to crawl on his belly if Romney wins.
Do yourself a favour and don't think that the rest of us give a **** about what the Yanks think of us. We know full well that the US is only interested in itself and so will kiss arse when we have something they want and we'll get ignored when we don't. So given that Australia is already looking far more closely at China as a trading partner than the US, then I think you probably need their raw materials a lot more than they need you.

I also happen to agree with Swan. The Republican party is currently filled with lunatics and morons.
 

Bouillabaisse

LE
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#12
Yup. And the locals got pretty upset by it.

Reaction if Obama stood up and said that Milliband would make a better prime minister than Cameron?
 

Bouillabaisse

LE
Book Reviewer
#14
Do yourself a favour and don't think that the rest of us give a **** about what the Yanks think of us. We know full well that the US is only interested in itself and so will kiss arse when we have something they want and we'll get ignored when we don't. So given that Australia is already looking far more closely at China as a trading partner than the US, then I think you probably need their raw materials a lot more than they need you.

I also happen to agree with Swan. The Republican party is currently filled with lunatics and morons.
You seem to be mistaking me for an American. I don't care about Aussie politics and had never heard of Swan before today. I also don't really bother with the detail of US politics much - how do you know the Republicans are morons and crazies? becuase you heard it in the press? What's your source - BBC, Guardian, Telegraph, Fox News, CNN?

I suspect that the senior republican politicians and campaign workers are highly intelligent and well educated. they may have different political views from you, but that doesn't make someone a moron.
 
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Yup. And the locals got pretty upset by it.

Reaction if Obama stood up and said that Milliband would make a better prime minister than Cameron?
He's met both, so probably has a more valid opinion than I do.

You seem to be mistaking me for an American. I don't care about Aussie politics and had never heard of Swan before today. I also don't really bother with the detail of US politics much - how do you know the Republicans are morons and crazies? becuase you heard it in the press? What's your source - BBC, Guardian, Telegraph, Fox News, CNN?

I suspect that the senior republican politicians and campaign workers are highly intelligent and well educated. they may have different political views from you, but that doesn't make someone a moron.
I'm sure they are highly educated, but they also seem to live on a different planet to me, so from my point of view, they are a bunch of crazies.

Here are a few quotes from Republican higher ups.

”This was a war of Obama’s choosing. This is not something the United States has actively prosecuted or wanted to engage in.”

—Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele, rewriting history while speaking at a Connecticut fundraiser about the war in Afghanistan, which President Bush launched following the 9/11 terrorist attacks (July 2, 2010)
”She’s a f**king raghead. We got a raghead in Washington; we don’t need one in South Carolina. She’s a raghead that’s ashamed of her religion trying to hide it behind being Methodist for political reasons.”

—South Carolina State Sen. Jake Knotts (R), claiming that his Republican rival in the South Carolina governor’s race, Nikki Haley, has been set up by a network of Sikhs and was programmed to run for governor by outside influences in foreign countries. (Haley is of Sikh descent, and is now a Christian.) Knotts later clarified his statement, saying he did not mean to use the F-word. (June 4, 2010))
”Marriage is not a civil right. You’re not black.”

—Ann Coulter, arguing in front of a group of gay conservatives that the 14th Amendment only applies to African-Americans and that it does not, in fact, apply to women, LGBT people, or other minorities, Sept. 26, 2010
I could go on and on, but I assume you see my point.
 

Bouillabaisse

LE
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He's met both, so probably has a more valid opinion than I do.
Irellevant. It's not his country and he shouldn't interfere. As he would be quickly and loudly told by all and sundry.



I'm sure they are highly educated, but they also seem to live on a different planet to me, so from my point of view, they are a bunch of crazies.
You're entitled to your opinion but if you're a political leader of a foreign country that has to deal with the USA you should keep them to yourself

Here are a few quotes from Republican higher ups.







I could go on and on, but I assume you see my point.
I'm sure some republican will be along to selectively quote from Obama or his minions as well. Perhaps you could post a photoshop picture of the pope doing a nazi salute as well? In any case, I'm not arguing whether republican or democrat politics are right or wrong. I'm saying - and I'll repeat it as you clearly don't understand - that foreign politicians have no business commenting on US elections. Their job is to deal with the outcome.
 
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Irellevant. It's not his country and he shouldn't interfere. As he would be quickly and loudly told by all and sundry.

You're entitled to your opinion but if you're a political leader of a foreign country that has to deal with the USA you should keep them to yourself

I'm sure some republican will be along to selectively quote from Obama or his minions as well. Perhaps you could post a photoshop picture of the pope doing a nazi salute as well? In any case, I'm not arguing whether republican or democrat politics are right or wrong. I'm saying - and I'll repeat it as you clearly don't understand - that foreign politicians have no business commenting on US elections. Their job is to deal with the outcome.
Yank Politicians feel free to meddle in other countries on a regular basis, so why shouldn't the rest of us voice an opinion? At least that's all that Swan has done, not got the Aussie secret service to go and play topple the Government or something similar.

We are all entitled to our opinions.
 

Travelgall

LE
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#19
You would think Politicians would learn when to keep their Yaps shut. It is after all what they are in part paid to do. Is the Republican Party a bunch of nuts - No, but they have swung quite clearly to several positions that make them unelectable among swing voters and will loose them the key battlegrounds such as Ohio etc. And considering how unpopular and inefficient this current President is that's pretty good going. The Fiscally Conservative but Socially Libertarian Party of Reagan seems to me as an outsider a distant memory to the Party; and I personally believe the GOP will have a lot of explaining to do about how key activists screwed up this badly by nominating Mr Romney.

I as an individual can say this. I expect people who disagree with me and believe the US Republican party are pure evil can say the same as well. Indeed anybody who is a member of a free society can, it's one of our strengths. Of course, if I say this with Malice like a lot of Yank Bashers do, then the Americans can quite clearly tell me where to stick my advice. I like America and would hope my words are recognised as a friend thinking about their best interests and wanting to strengthen their people. As opposed to a whining Left Wing fucktard who believes the Yanks put fluoride in the water to keep the Proletariat down and blame them and/or Israel for everything.

The difference is both myself and Robert Fisk/The Guardian Op-Ed are not the elected representatives of our people who are expected to have good relations with friendly and Allied countries. Politicians are. This Politician has just done exactly the same thing as Mitt Romney did when questioning the preparedness of the UK Olympics. He's opened his gob on something he is paid to keep his gob shut about. Politicians are supposed to be eloquent and diplomatic - even Australian ones.
 
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You would think Politicians would learn when to keep their Yaps shut. It is after all what they are in part paid to do. Is the Republican Party a bunch of nuts - No, but they have swung quite clearly to several positions that make them unelectable among swing voters and will loose them the key battlegrounds such as Ohio etc. And considering how unpopular and inefficient this current President is that's pretty good going. The Fiscally Conservative but Socially Libertarian Party of Reagan seems to me as an outsider a distant memory to the Party; and I personally believe the GOP will have a lot of explaining to do about how key activists screwed up this badly by nominating Mr Romney.

I as an individual can say this. I expect people who disagree with me and believe the US Republican party are pure evil can say the same as well. Indeed anybody who is a member of a free society can, it's one of our strengths. Of course, if I say this with Malice like a lot of Yank Bashers do, then the Americans can quite clearly tell me where to stick my advice. I like America and would hope my words are recognised as a friend thinking about their best interests and wanting to strengthen their people. As opposed to a whining Left Wing fucktard who believes the Yanks put fluoride in the water to keep the Proletariat down and blame them and/or Israel for everything.

The difference is both myself and Robert Fisk/The Guardian Op-Ed are not the elected representatives of our people who are expected to have good relations with friendly and Allied countries. Politicians are. This Politician has just done exactly the same thing as Mitt Romney did when questioning the preparedness of the UK Olympics. He's opened his gob on something he is paid to keep his gob shut about. Politicians are supposed to be eloquent and diplomatic - even Australian ones.
Nope. Diplomats are supposed to be that.
Politicians are supposed to speak up when they see something that might be of detriment to the voters.
 

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