Coward

#1
Been bugging me for a while, What was the name of the Bdr who decided we live in a democracy and deserted from the first Gulf war? I was in attendance at his Courts Martial at Woolwich where I am sure he got away with it and did the minimum sentence.
And didnt he appear at an anti war rally?
 
#2
LCpl Williams- 27 Fd Regt?


Edited to add:

Found this http://www.mysongbook.de/msb/songs/b/bofvicwi.html


Also:

Vic Williams, a soldier in the Royal Artillery, was jailed for 14 months for desertion and conduct prejudicial to the good order of discipline, after he went absent without leave. Even though he told his superiors he felt unable to take part in what he saw as an unjust war, he, too, says he was never alerted to the right to ask for a discharge.
From http://www.guardian.co.uk/antiwar/story/0,12809,1235782,00.html
 
#4
Vic was 27 Fd but did his Pre-deployment training in Lippstadt with 49, he kept going on about how he was looking forward to it! Next thing I know he's on tele at some anti-war demo saying that it an illegal war.
He'd told the gdrm he was just going to fill up his car so that it'd have fuel in when he came back.
 
#5
Radar punter if I remember correctly
 
#6
You'll probably find that he'll be claiming PTSD (Gulfwar Syndrome) next. I fail to see how he can do a U turn so easily.

Ubique!
 
#7
Until he went AWOL Vic was going to be my Dvr (FOO party for 16/5 Lancers)

He was replaced by an absolute 27 legend 'LBdr C R' who proved to be about 1000 times the man Williams was

The real story for his absence was not a new found pacifism he battered some nig in HQ Bty bar during the PDT and was afraid of the consequences

When we got to theatre I and the remainder of the crew (a mix of 27 Regt and 3 RHA)
Sold off his kit to buy cot beds!!

ha ha twat!!
 
#9
Can a MOD pls edit this post to get this chaps name removed please.
Ty
Effy20



Wittmann said:
Until he went AWOL Vic was going to be my Dvr (FOO party for 16/5 Lancers)

He was replaced by an absolute 27 legend 'LBdr ******* ********* who proved to be about 1000 times the man Williams was

The real story for his absence was not a new found pacifism he battered some nig in HQ Bty bar during the PDT and was afraid of the consequences

When we got to theatre I and the remainder of the crew (a mix of 27 Regt and 3 RHA)
Sold off his kit to buy cot beds!!

ha ha t**t!!
 
#10
The Anti-War demo was in Manchester by the way. I was working in the city at the time and saw this muppet.

I even asked a copper why he wasn't being arrested for being AWOL, he just smiled and said "Ex-squaddie?, me too" He went on to say he'd love to be the one to arrest him but was unable due to the possibility of causing Public Order problems. What Bollox!
 
#11
I have amended his replacements name. I will not however remove the name of person to whom we are refering to. The man is a complete disgrace to the Oath of Allegiance that he gave, his fellow soldiers and the Royal Artillery. He brought shame to the Royal Regiment at the time.

His name is widely available on the internet over this incident. The man has to live everyday with the knowledge of the cowardly act he made and the fact his name will be whispered behind his back for the rest of his life.

No sympathy.

GQ
 
#12
GQ, Thanks for removing the lads name. I purposely didnt ask for the cowards name to be removed as my thoughts are similar to yours. I am also pleased to see that we as Companions have the same train of thought.

Fraternal greetings from Kirkstyle RAC 453 Carluke Scotland.

Efargee20

GunnersQuadrant said:
I have amended his replacements name. I will not however remove the name of person to whom we are refering to. The man is a complete disgrace to the Oath of Allegiance that he gave, his fellow soldiers and the Royal Artillery. He brought shame to the Royal Regiment at the time.

His name is widely available on the internet over this incident. The man has to live everyday with the knowledge of the cowardly act he made and the fact his name will be whispered behind his back for the rest of his life.

No sympathy.

GQ
 
#13
Efargee20 said:
I am also pleased to see that we as Companions have the same train of thought.

Fraternal greetings from Kirkstyle RAC 453 Carluke Scotland.
However did you know :wink:

Fraternal regards my friend.
 
#14
Persec understood and my apologies

Although this was OP GRANBY (16 years ago) and LBdr C R was at his 22 year point then so will be well out of the firing line by now

Any how Williams was a ****
 
#15
Roger, if that is the case then it really is not an issue. Only when they are still serving or an operationally sensitive issue.

GQ :)
 
#16
LBdr C R. If it is the one I am thinking of he was an excellent soldier but possibly one of the grottiest foul mouthed soldiers you could ever meet! Dont take this wrong LBdr C R was a good friend of mine but I had to share a room with him for a few weeks, OMG, I remeber he used to get plastered every night, wake up, have a fag and coffee, quick shave (never showered) and off to the veh park.

He actually did not do 22 yrs, he got some really bad advice off the Paymaster who told him that there would be no more redundancy phases so he signed off at about his 14/15 year point, then along came redundancy Phase 3 and he missed out on the cash. Saw him 4 years ago, lives in Newcastle labouring. Great bloke.

Hope I got the right guy,
 
#17
I had to pick Williams alleged diary up and take it to his courts martial for his defence. The biggest load of fabrication I have ever read (and i read the Sunday Sport!) It looked like it was written on the same day and all in the same pen. Having read previous reports My estimate of him has not changed, all out tosser. Wonder where he is now?
 
#19
i was in basic training when they held a rally outside the camp gates shouting for williams release..pick elve in hand lol...brings back memories
 

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