For now.We’re perfectly happy to blame you. Bastards!!
U.K. coronavirus variant is now the dominant strain in the U.S., CDC says
Damn, there goes my thin veneer of intellectualism. Time for some self-flagellation. (I was going to do it anyway but I’ll dedicate this session to the site.)
Had my 1st jab a day or so ago and presented my Yellow Fever card and it was promptly signed with day/batch number etc, as there is space for ;other inoculations' no biggie at all. Plus exit a printout from Ministry of "Elf person attesting to jab OKCould be tricky catering for annual shots as the bug mutates a la flu.
No problem if it's added to the yellow fever card one carries for entry to certain countries and treated in the same manner. The shit will creep in when it becomes a self licking lollipop, as is highly likely considering the hysteria around things as they stand. Another bit of paper for the windy to demand and faint in coils over when it's not forthcoming, along with drama whores making an issue of shunning those who don't comply with their excitable demands.
Winding each other up on social media because Kylie wants to go to Ibiza and doesn't have the latest trendy shot is going to become arse clenchingly irritating.
I wasn’t implying you were using re-hashed anti Semitic conspiracy theories. I’ve seen many people elsewhere commenting on this whole thing is being used as a control mechanism.Maybe I'm just uneasy about governments extending their powers over the population. I've had the vaccine and carry my little bit of card stating such. I'm happy to do so.
Given that the WHO is quite happy with China's actions over at the start of Covid, they weren't at fault at all. I'd question how unbiased they might be in other areas. Prof Ferguson likewise said one thing and did another way before Mr Cummings got pilloried for his northern excursion
I will be pleasantly surprised if the easing of restrictions proceeds according to plan. I think the government has done the best in trying circumstances and shudder to think what the labour party would have done. Some trust the government implicitly in all circumstances some don't, I fall into the latter category.
How you get 're-hashed anti Semitic New World Order conspiracy stuff.' from my post says more about your views than mine which have always tended towards the cock up rather than conspiracy theory of history.
I don’t think he is turning in to Blair. Churchill introduced them out of necessity and got rid of them when he could. As I suspect Boris will. Blair and Sturgeon will probably advocate their retention with political allegiance added onto them.Exactly the same as Winston Churchill's objection to it, that it fundamentally alters the relationship between the individual and the state. That argument ought to persuade Boris easily since he strives to be like Churchill in all things, but he is turning into Blair if he continues down this path.
Yes it is hard to tell.
I don’t know what this government control conspiracy end aim is though.
I don’t think he is turning in to Blair. Churchill introduced them out of necessity and got rid of them when he could. As I suspect Boris will. Blair and Sturgeon will probably advocate their retention with political allegiance added onto them.
I don't think there is an end game as such. Just having the population aquiescent is enough. Whilst 'Hot Fuzz' is not a documentary the idea of 'For the greater good' is very appealing to the authorities. When governments get them it doesn't seem to end well as they're not expecting it.I wasn’t implying you were using re-hashed anti Semitic conspiracy theories. I’ve seen many people elsewhere commenting on this whole thing is being used as a control mechanism.
I don’t know what this government control conspiracy end aim is though.
I’ve even come across people claiming vaccination is all about population control and more people will be alive if there was no vaccinations ever. Something to do with Bill Gates and The UN wanting to reduce the worlds population. Edited for brevity.
They already have the power.I don't think there is an end game as such. Just having the population aquiescent is enough. Whilst 'Hot Fuzz' is not a documentary the idea of 'For the greater good' is very appealing to the authorities. When governments get them it doesn't seem to end well as they're not expecting it.
As @Bob65 says who hsan't thought they could run it better? If suddenly given that power how many would actually wield it effectively and how many would help their mates first and if the real problems are solved so much the better. (Like real life politicos if you think about it).
As far as the covid bits go I reckon the government is doing ok, I just don't trust them to relinquish the extra powers they've picked up since 2020 any too easily.
As for Bill Gates' s involvement, I've had my first jab and my Sony Ericksson still wont send e-mails. Very disappointing.
As I always say when people start talking about conspiracies; as a mid-ranking (ex) civil servant, any conspiracy would require people like me, my friends and my ex-colleagues to support it if the conspiracy was to succeed. The level of cooperation, coordination, competence, control and discretion would be massive.
Believe me, were not that good
What you’re describing is, to me, not a conspiracy but “building a narrative”, or “jumping on the bandwagon”. The environment is allowing the river to flow, and other streams, brooks, rivulets etc are joining it as it flows along. There is no overarching aim apart from getting to the sea and all the waterways join and become one entity with that one aim.I am in Wales and if you look at any of our mountains here you will see certain features. One of which is streams running down the mountain, noone planned them and dug them, the water naturally found the most efficient route down and then wore those streams into the ground over time. Or you will see sheep tracks criss-crossing the mountains, noone planned those like roads, the sheep just found the best natural contours in the land and kept using them. And that's how "conspiracies" work, there are a set of conditions which may be set artificially or may spontaneously emerge without planning, and people see that choosing COA A instead of B is to their advantage and then without any sort of central coordination at all, everyone sort of meanders in the same direction, jostling for a place near but not quite at the front, but always moving further without even having a destination in mind.
Such as each individual SAGE member independently realising that the bigger scare story they can give directly to the press, the higher their personal prestige, the greater the power they personally wield (which is its own incentive), the more funding they might be able to attract in future... There's no shadowy figure pulling the strings, there doesn't have to be.
(I don't claim to be immune from this effect myself, everyone will respond to incentives, explicitly or implicitly)
A conspiracy requires coordination and control. What you are seeing is opportunism. Whilst the overarching aim is to get to the “sea“ (in this case to obtain power) the different streams will eventually split and compete with each other.
For most people, the incentive is simply to bring forward the date when we can have some semblance of normality.Sure. A few posts back the topic was national ID cards by the backdoor under the guise of COVID passports. Blair tried for force it through by diktat and failed, so is there a conspiracy now to do it? No, and there doesn't need to be, there is a critical mass of people whose incentives are well served prolonging the crisis and this is one way to do it.