Covid averse, Covid neutral.

Autism conferences have been using these for years, though usually on a lanyard as far more visible.


"Social Interaction

A lot of people are, understandably, quite concerned about the heavy social demands of being in a large group for several days. There is no requirement to socialise at all, and there will be no implicit or explicit disapproval of those who choose not to interact with others. There is coloured badge system for indicating whether you would like to socialise or not.


No initiation Red Please do not initiate any interaction with me.

Prior Permission Yellow Please do not initiate unless I have already given you permission to approach me on a yellow badge.

Please initiate Green I would like to socialise, but I have difficulty initiating.

Please initiate with me. Neutral White (or no badge)I am able to regulate my own interaction.
"Autism Conference" reminds me of this,

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Ned_Seagoon

War Hero
If you are already wearing a mask, you've already identified as scared and/or compliant, if you are not you have already identified as an individual capable of independent thought / anti-social tendencies. Why the **** would you need an armband? To prove the individualists are just a wee bit compliant? Thin end of the wedge that is...
AY. You are being deliberately provocative. As a reasonably healthy 50 something, I am neither scared nor unthinkingly compliant. However, I do wear a mask whenever I go into a closed public space. I do this out of consideration for my parents who are late 80s/mid 90s. I am their sole support. I deliver their food, meds etc; I look after their house and admin for them. If I went down with Covid, their life life would become difficult to say the least. And, as a matter of interest, the French Govt announced yesterday that this will become policy for all wef 01 Aug - compliance is not a lifestyle choice.
 

Grownup_Rafbrat

LE
Book Reviewer
AY. You are being deliberately provocative. As a reasonably healthy 50 something, I am neither scared nor unthinkingly compliant. However, I do wear a mask whenever I go into a closed public space. I do this out of consideration for my parents who are late 80s/mid 90s. I am their sole support. I deliver their food, meds etc; I look after their house and admin for them. If I went down with Covid, their life life would become difficult to say the least. And, as a matter of interest, the French Govt announced yesterday that this will become policy for all wef 01 Aug - compliance is not a lifestyle choice.
I think if we are going to impose bands on everyone (which was the point of the op) in addition to masks, we will likely need a black band to go with all the other colors, for those on all sides of the argument, to tell everyone to avoid contact, that any other opinion means nothing to the wearer except annoyance, and as a reminder that everybody dies, possibly sooner if you attempt to engage.

The vulnerable, at high risk female employee should be sent home to work if possible, or laid off until the danger has passed (forever), as the company cannot guarantee her safety from a virus at work, or on her way to and from. The business can't disprove she did not acquire it at work when (not if) she does, and can obviously be shown not to have taken every possible precaution for her safety. Also, no one wants to pay out that settlement, or the cost to defend against it in court.

The "healthy" not at risk male employee is a prat that will cost the business in some way or another more than he will ever bring in as he is a prat. He needs canning, and probably caning as well.
 
the whole thing is to get us obeying instructions.

Hancock has already been suggesting the under tested vaccine will be compulsory, I notice they have moved the testing to Brazil so they can hide the deaths from it.
No, they have moved testing as a vaccine trial requires a decent number of test subjects to catch the target disease or the trial fails. UK numbers have dropped to a less suitable figure.
 

kimmi851

War Hero
On one hand I am not panicking about the virus. I am being fairly reasonable in obeying reasonable ways to make sure vulnerable people are not impacted by my choices, but I am trotting about talking to friends in parks and gardens (partly because the mental strain on my daughter is far worse than the virus would be - I have heard anecdotally from a lot of first responders about the suicide rates and the changes in situations of people choosing to do it, and that one does scare me) and got to the pub at the weekend.

On the other - this not shaking hands thing is great, and as for the no hugging thing - Thank Goodness. I loathe cheek kissing people I don't know well. Long may this social distance greeting thing last!
 
the whole thing is to get us obeying instructions.
For what purpose? I keep seeing people saying this on Facebook and Twitter as well but it all sounds very tin foil hat to me. Is making us wear masks the final barrier to turning the UK into North Korea as the evil Tories want?
 

kimmi851

War Hero
For what purpose? I keep seeing people saying this on Facebook and Twitter as well but it all sounds very tin foil hat to me. Is making us wear masks the final barrier to turning the UK into North Korea as the evil Tories want?
It does rather imply that the Government are doing more than running around with their heads in their hands screaming "if we don't do Something, Anything, then the Daily Mail will complain" and then running to the papers trying to make sure they are the ones heard saying whatever it was they could make up on the spot just so it is their face in the paper being "proactive" not someone else's.

Having worked in Whitehall I suspect I am rather more accurate than the paranoid types.

And yes - the end conclusion of this is that as we feared - the country is finally truly being run by the Daily Mail.
 
For what purpose? I keep seeing people saying this on Facebook and Twitter as well but it all sounds very tin foil hat to me. Is making us wear masks the final barrier to turning the UK into North Korea as the evil Tories want?

Logic has no place in an argument against "freedom", especially when criticising government/"big pharma"/the Illuminati
 
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happyuk

War Hero
It's all confusing still. That's why I suspect many people feel they have to adopt a limited and rigid position about mask wearing. It's hard work being blown around by so much differing information.

There's a lot that's not yet understood:
  • Why children hardly seem to be affected.
  • Why some young-ish adults, healthy as anything, get hit really hard.
  • Why some young-ish adults, not healthy at all, were asymptomatic.
  • Why some people can get it twice. This is now confirmed.
  • Why there can be persisting neurological issues. The mechanisms are unknown. (Lung damage, too, and other lasting serious issues, but those are better understood.)
  • Why some people develop antibodies and others don't. And why those antibodies don't seem to necessarily prevent a recurrence.
There's a lot of downright falsehood:
  • The faking of numbers and falsifying of death certificates.
  • HCQ studies that have been outright designed to fail.
  • The media campaign against HCQ, which all the real evidence suggests is safe, cheap and effective.
  • The TOTAL SILENCE from any medical authorities, anywhere, of anything whatsoever to do with the ability of how individuals can strengthen and support their own immune system.. To me this is such an enormous red flag it's hard to describe.
What I think we know:
  • It originated outside of China. (It's now been confirmed in Barcelona in March 2019, long before Wuhan.)
  • Whether opportunistic or planned, its advent is DEFINITELY being used to further a host of global control agendas.
  • There's now a more serious strain on the loose, called D614G.
  • It's not a respiratory disease, it's a blood-clotting disease.
  • The results of antibody tests are conflicting and confusing. But the significance of these so far seems to suggest that no vaccine may actually work. It might be like the common cold, changing all the time: so no resistance, or vaccine, may be possible.
  • The WHO is either incompetent, criminally complicit, or both.
  • Fauci and Bill Gates cannot be trusted. At all.
 

Tool

LE
What I think we know:
  • It originated outside of China. (It's now been confirmed in Barcelona in March 2019, long before Wuhan.
Do you have a link for that? All I can find is that the Spain contamination is

"Independent experts have slammed the research as flawed and contradictory to strong evidence suggesting the virus started in China in late 2019.

Director of the UCL Genetics Institute in London Professor Francois Balloux said: “The most plausible explanation is sample mix-up/contamination.""
 
Logic has no place in an argument against "freedom", especially when criticising government/"big pharma"/the Illuminati
Just tell people to wear a mask or the 5G pigeons are going to give them cancer
 

Fang_Farrier

LE
Kit Reviewer
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FORMER_FYRDMAN

LE
Book Reviewer
That's all very well, but why are we finally being asked to mask up four months after lock down and almost two months after they started to ease lock down? Further, if it's so critical, why wait until the 24th?

Why can't the medical profession simply admit that it hasn't got a scooby and that this is simply a political measure to reassure the worried well; a group over-represented by the comfortably furloughed who were more than happy to dent a few saucepans and clap like moonhowlers so long as they personally stayed safe, give or take a flirtation with cirrhosis, whilst some of the worst paid people in our society put themselves in harm's way to keep things ticking over.
 

Fang_Farrier

LE
Kit Reviewer
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That's all very well, but why are we finally being asked to mask up four months after lock down and almost two months after they started to ease lock down? Further, if it's so critical, why wait until the 24th?

Why can't the medical profession simply admit that it hasn't got a scooby and that this is simply a political measure to reassure the worried well; a group over-represented by the comfortably furloughed who were more than happy to dent a few saucepans and clap like moonhowlers so long as they personally stayed safe, give or take a flirtation with cirrhosis, whilst some of the worst paid people in our society put themselves in harm's way to keep things ticking over.
Speaking from a country where we were advised to wear face coverings in April, where it became mandatory on transport weeks ago and in shops as we entered phase 3, I have no idea why you lot are leaving it so late.
 

Grumblegrunt

LE
Book Reviewer
No, they have moved testing as a vaccine trial requires a decent number of test subjects to catch the target disease or the trial fails. UK numbers have dropped to a less suitable figure.
and yet they are claiming a massive spike in infections demanding more lock downs.

it's easier to fake the trials when they are somewhere else.

and taking it to a totally different genetic group defeats the whole thing entirely.

for the northern european ethnic groupings this is still NOT a thing.

but then spanish flu hit different ethnic groups differently as did the influenza and pox viruses the spanish and portugese took to south america..
 

Grumblegrunt

LE
Book Reviewer
Speaking from a country where we were advised to wear face coverings in April, where it became mandatory on transport weeks ago and in shops as we entered phase 3, I have no idea why you lot are leaving it so late.
which country is that then?
 
How about a BFO yellow star and a red armband? It wouldn't prevent Covid but it would put paid to awkward silences... in Bristol (other locations are available).
 

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