COVID-19 and international cooperation

Reportedly the Russian team in Italy includes specialists with practical experience to battle Ebola and also anthrax (Siberian plague).
But surely they're all going to be recalled now that the Kremlin have realised they can't keep lying about their domestic COVID-19 disaster? Well, I'm sure they'll stay long enough to drop off whatever they really deployed to deliver.
 
Reportedly the Russian team in Italy includes specialists with practical experience to battle Ebola and also anthrax (Siberian plague).
Must admit, I don’t recall them being used during the outbreak of Ebola, but I’ll take your word for it. They have experience on their own turf of course in Vector(?)

I hear Cubans are also going. They seem to have a good rep.
 
Must admit, I don’t recall them being used during the outbreak of Ebola, but I’ll take your word for it. They have experience on their own turf of course in Vector(?)

I hear Cubans are also going. They seem to have a good rep.
As for Russian military specialists with practical experience in Ebola then I heard about it on TV. Why not? Some or a few could be sent to African countries vie international organizations.
It is not a big secret, that there is a lot of biological labs in Russia including military ones and unfortunate accidents can not be excluded.
Yes Cuba sent their specialists to Italy. I wrote about it on this thread.
As for the Russians in Italy then their activity includes
1.Disinfection of buildings, transport and infrastructure objects using special equipments. Just today a boarding house intended for 500 old people was completely cleaned. It is very important to send the old into such reliable shelters.
2.There 8 mobile experienced teams that are being used in the most difficult cases.
It appears that number of lung ventilation systems per 100,000 in Russia is one of the highest in the world and factories that produces them are working now full steam.
 
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As for Russian military specialists with practical experience in Ebola then I heard about in on TV. Why not? Some or even a few could be sent to African countries vie international organizations.
As I said, I hadn’t heard of their deployment in the Ebola outbreak but I would take your word for it.
It is not a big secret, that there is a lot of biological labs in Russia including military ones and unfortunate accidents can not be excluded.
Of course, we all know about accidents.
Yes the Cuba sent their specialist to Italy. I wrote about it on this thread.
More interesting was their ‘revolutionary fervour’ tbh. I wasn’t aware how well they were regarded.
As for the Russians in Italy then their activity includes
1.Disinfection of buildings, transport and infrastructure objects using special equipments. Just today a boarding house intended for 500 old people was completely cleaned. It is very important to send the old into such reliable shelters.
2.There 8 mobile experienced teams that are being used in the most difficult cases.
Im sure they’re getting stuck in. It’s the reason they’re there tbh
It appears that number of lung ventilation systems per 100,000 in Russia is one of the highest in the world and factories that produces them are working now full steam.
I’m sure they are Sergey. Meanwhile:
By contrast, NATO airlifts of urgent medical supplies to European allies have not grabbed public attention. The European Union has faced delays obtaining face masks and other protective gear while EU governments have closed borders to one another.

NATO militaries are active flying sick patients to hospitals, delivering beds and repatriating citizens, although NATO has not deployed its own biological protection units.
 
NATO militaries are active flying sick patients to hospitals, delivering beds and repatriating citizens, although NATO has not deployed its own biological protection units.
Yes, it is needed to repatriate the defenders to protect the defended.
Twenty troops of NATO's multinational battalion stationed in Lithuania have tested positive for the novel coronavirus, the military unit's spokesman confirmed to LETA/BNS on Wednesday.
"There are more confirmed cases. At this moment, there are a total of 20 cases," Captain Evert-Jan Daniels said.
The officer gave no details as to the infected troops' nationality, apart from saying that two Dutch soldiers had been already flown to the Netherlands.
Almost a week ago Spanish armed forces asked NATO for help in the context of COVID-19.
On 23 March, the EADRCC has received a request for international assistance from the Armed Forces of Spain in their response to the global pandemic of the coronavirus COVID-19.
The Armed Forces of Spain are acting in favour of civil population to mitigate the virus spread. In order to prevent the spread of the virus in the military units of the Armed Forces of Spain and in the civil population, international partners are asked to provide assistance to the Ministry of Defence of Spain in supplying humanitarian assistance.
I'm sure that such a powerful organization as NATO will help Spain. Has Reuters reported about practical steps in this direction?
 
Impact of COVID-19 on international military cooperation apparently is much more significant than one could imagine.
NATO is now faced with a coronavirus test: the ability of the alliance to respond to something that directly impacts the voters who have been asked, over the past several years, to support increases in defense spending. It is not accidental that some leading commentators in the Euro-Atlantic community are calling for the virus to be designated, in essence, as an “armed attack” against NATO members, necessitating joint and effective action on the part of all the allies to craft a collective response.
There are voices inside NATO that cast doubts in effectiveness of alliance or at least in its strategy and priorities.
At the beginning of 2020, after concerns about French President Emmanuel Macron’s comments about NATO being “braindead” and his calls for a new dialogue with Moscow...
the COVID-19 threat overshadows other threads.
The pandemic, now, threatens the personal security and economic prosperity of millions of citizens in NATO states in a way that much more limited terrorist strikes or the even more theoretical discussions of a Russian incursion do not.
COVID-19 no doubt will affect military spendings
Of course, pivoting the alliance to deal with the coronavirus (and future pandemic outbreaks) requires a different mix of military capabilities. If we posit that one of the impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic is that military spending in many alliance nations will be reduced, then what remains of those military budgets is likely to be dedicated towards bolstering humanitarian assistance/disaster relief missions, as well as improving internal security and land and maritime border protection.
And military cooperation with such countries as Iraq will be affected as well.
The British decision to withdraw remaining forces from the Iraqi training mission in order to redeploy them for domestic service may become a defining trend in the future.
NATO faces another problem.
Another trend that the coronavirus may accelerate is the loss of intra-alliance cohesion and solidarity.
...intra-alliance borders have been closed down, not only between NATO and EU members within Europe, but also bans forbidding travel across the Atlantic have been enacted. The perception that the United States is prepared to go it alone and look out for its well-being without concern for its closest allies reinforces pre-existing trends; Europeans, in turn, believe that their side of the Atlantic must be prepared to de-couple from Washington for its own security...
There is another serious effect.
Beyond the political perception that NATO has failed the solidarity test, the practical realities of the pandemic call into question the operational basis of NATO’s deterrent mission: the ability to field forces in sufficient strength to deter or repel any possible incursion.
Meanwhile Moscow closely monitors the situation in NATO.
Signs of discord in NATO are always carefully monitored by Russia. The 2015 Russian national security strategy categorizes the alliance as a threat to Russian strategic interests, even if some of its member (like Germany, France, Italy, Turkey, and Hungary) are, at a bilateral level, important strategic partners.
It looks as transformation of NATO is inevitable with lower role of the USA.
This would shift the focus of NATO—and indeed of “European Defender”—from waiting for the United States to arrive in force to an alliance where states possess sufficient “porcupine” capabilities to fend off attacks, assaults, and challenges. This would also include a situation in which U.S. leadership is less manifested in providing forces in favor of leveraging the remarkable technological ingenuity and skill that still defines the Euro-Atlantic zone to provide capabilities for each alliance member.
 
Yes, it is needed to repatriate the defenders to protect the defended.

Almost a week ago Spanish armed forces asked NATO for help in the context of COVID-19.

I'm sure that such a powerful organization as NATO will help Spain. Has Reuters reported about practical steps in this direction?
The Spanish MOD - not the armed forces- requested international (Not NATO) assistance

Bur thank you for the heads up on the next Russian narrative to sow discord - to whit presenting a request for humanitarian aid as one for military and therefore NATO useless / liars dont honour agreements when there no military assistance forthcoming
 
The Spanish MOD - not the armed forces- requested international (Not NATO) assistance
Spain has asked NATO for urgent help with material, requesting 1.5 million surgical masks, 150,000 protective suits and 450,000 ventilators.
Maybe Turkish news agency is now under control of evil Putin?
Bur thank you for the heads up on the next Russian narrative to sow discord - to whit presenting a request for humanitarian aid as one for military and therefore NATO useless / liars dont honour agreements when there no military assistance forthcoming
They are just sober observations and a serious cause to reconsider many things including deeply implemented stereotypes.
 
Yes, it is needed to repatriate the defenders to protect the defended.
It will do what is needed. Most likely without a ‘song and dance’ unlike that which is emanating from Putin’s agitprop.
Almost a week ago Spanish armed forces asked NATO for help in the context of COVID-19.

I'm sure that such a powerful organization as NATO will help Spain. Has Reuters reported about practical steps in this direction?
That’s what the EADRCC does. Albeit it doesn’t seem to feel the need to have headline news.
 
The Antonov AN-124 plane landed around 14.30 local time at Bratislava airport with 48 tons of medical material. The cargo aircraft is part of the Strategic Airlift International Solution or SALIS programme, which is supported by NATO. The supplies, included facemasks, surgical gloves and protective suits arrived from Tianjin in China.
A further 45 tons of medical equipment, including 100,000 protective suits, are set to arrive in Bucharest on Thursday (26 March 2020) from the Republic of Korea.
A Russian Antonov An-124-100 Ruslan military heavy transport aircraft with medical masks and equipment has departed for the United States amid the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak, the Russian Defence Ministry said Wednesday.
I believe that international cooperation is very important in the fight with COVID-19.
 


I believe that international cooperation is very important in the fight with COVID-19.
Thanks, but is it RuAF or Aeroflot? Or is it chartered? Minor point I’m sure:
NATO oversees two strategic airlift programmes. As part of the Strategic Airlift Capability or SAC, Allies and partner countries jointly own and operate three C-17 Globemaster heavy cargo aircraft, sharing flying hours and costs. Allies also charter several Antonov transport aircraft under the Alliance’s Strategic Airlift International Solution (SALIS) program. These programmes routinely moved personnel and supplies from Europe to NATO bases in Afghanistan and Kosovo as well as humanitarian relief efforts in Haiti and Pakistan.
 

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Hmmm, does anyone remember those lovely days of yesteryear when conversations about pandemics actually involved discussing virus or disease, and weren’t just a propaganda fest with Russian trolls ‘copy and pasting’ lots of drivel from other peoples words’.

It’s somewhat interesting to hear of Russian involvement in the Ebola virus.............While I‘m sure trolls will be happy to repeat whatever they have been told, it has come as a huge surprise to any of those actually from Africa I have spoken to, as they don’t remember any Russian involvement.

I suppose I am going to have to decide who is correct, people who were there, or our resident ‘rats in a cellar’ propagandist.
 
Thanks, but is it RuAF or Aeroflot? Or is it chartered? Minor point I’m sure:
NATO oversees two strategic airlift programmes. As part of the Strategic Airlift Capability or SAC, Allies and partner countries jointly own and operate three C-17 Globemaster heavy cargo aircraft, sharing flying hours and costs. Allies also charter several Antonov transport aircraft under the Alliance’s Strategic Airlift International Solution (SALIS) program. These programmes routinely moved personnel and supplies from Europe to NATO bases in Afghanistan and Kosovo as well as humanitarian relief efforts in Haiti and Pakistan.
Russian mass media reports about RuAF AN-124 humanitarian flight to the USA.
Russian MoD reports that its AN-124 was used to help the USA.
Now NATO uses Ukrainian AN-124's because
April 18, 2018 ...
The Russian cargo aviation company Volga-Dnepr will stop providing An-124 heavyweight cargo aircraft to NATO by the end of the year
 
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Russian mass media reports about RuAF AN-124 humanitarian flight to the USA.
Russian MoD reports that its AN-124 was used to help the USA.
Now NATO uses Ukrainian AN-124's because
Yep, looks like the NATO ones were chartered.

The Russian aid to the US is mentioned in western press as well:
 

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Slight thread drift.

The AN124 worldwide fleet has been pretty much employed for many years now, and have given sterling service. While obviously a product of previous decades they really show just what a leader in aviation that Ukraine could be.

It will be interesting to see how the possible organic Russian replacement will fair, and how the servicing and maintenance schedules will differ now that glass cockpits and composites are now widely used.
 
Globalised capitalism; ain't life grand?

'U.S. exports of surgical masks, ventilators and other personal protective gear to China skyrocketed in January and February, when the coronavirus was wreaking havoc in the country where it began and as U.S. intelligence agencies warned it would soon spread.

'American companies sold more than $17.5 million worth of face masks, more than $13.6 million in surgical garments and more than $27.2 million in ventilators to China during the first two months of the year, far exceeding that of any other similar period in the past decade, according to the most recent foreign trade data available from the U.S. Census Bureau.'


 
More like international competition and profiteering than cooperation!

'A delivery of 1.6 million mouth masks, which arrived at the airport of Liège last week, has passed the quality tests and will now be distributed to residential care centres in light of the new coronavirus (Covid-19) pandemic.

'It concerns surgical masks, ordered by the Flemish government, which are mainly intended for residential care centres, but also for family care, home nursing and care for people with a disability. “The tests have shown that they are of good quality,” said Steffen Van Roosbroeck, spokesperson for Flemish Minister for Public Health Wouter Beke, to Het Laatste Nieuws.

'Belgium has had problems with securing usable mouth masks, as it became apparent that it had destroyed millions ahead of the outbreak after they had reached their expiration date but failed to replace them, and 100,000 masks destined for Flemish rehabilitation hospitals were not deemed of sufficient quality.

'Previously, another delivery of mouth masks never reached Belgium because of possible fraud by the Turkish manufacturer. However, Belgium received half a million masks from Chinese company Alibaba, after the King personally intervened.

'These 1.6 million masks are not part of the delivery of 7 million mouth masks that also arrived in Liège on Friday, about whose quality there were explicit doubts. The office of Minister Philippe De Backer, who is in charge of the management and logistics of mouth masks, told the Belga press agency that tests on that delivery were still in progress.

'3 million mouth masks that were delivered last week do not appear to be the FFP2 masks. “At first glance, there were problems with them. We had them tested. The Federal Public Economy Service confirmed that the supplier had not been able to provide conclusive test certificates, and that the masks were of unacceptable quality after an additional test in a Belgian lab,” De Backer added. This is a “heavy setback” in the search for masks that offer the people on the field the highest possible protection, stated Minister Philippe De Backer, head of the task force in charge of mouth masks, in the Chamber. De Backer made an official complaint, and an official report was made, to be able to further followup on the matter.

'In April, 15 million surgical masks and 2.8 million FFP2 masks will be needed for all care providers together, according to De Backer. To date, Belgium has received 11 million surgical masks, of which 7.5 million have been distributed to healthcare providers. A further 2 million were brought to hospitals on Thursday morning. Of the FFP2 masks, 850,000 have already been distributed to healthcare providers.'


 

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