Covers pi$$ me off!

#1
Dontcha justhate cover version of songs? I nearly slapped someone today who thought Kurt Cobain wrote 'Man Who Sold the World'. Its David Bowie's signature tune for gods sake. gah!

And also this Alexandra Burke who has covered Leonard Cohens Hallelujah, I wonder how many young(er) people will know who he is from that song?

hrumph!
 
#2
I must admit, I do like Leonard Cohen & I think KD Langs version of 'Hallelujah' is by far the best. The only trouble is you've got to be in the right frame of mind to listen to Cohen otherwise you'll end up slashing your wrists! :)
 
#3
A bit of a wild genaralisation, though isn't it? Do you hate all cover versions, no matter who did the original and who did the cover? I can think of lots of cover versions that I prefer to the original. Amongst my particular favourites are:

"With a little help from my friends" and "She came in through the Bathroom Window" - both originally by the Beatles and covered by Joe Cocker. They're on the live album of his 1970 tour of USA "Mad Dogs and Englishmen" and are great.

"My Way" covered by the Sex Pistols

"Delilah" covered by Alex Harvey
 
#4
Ive a sonics cover in my sig that I recon is better then the origonal ;)

You'd hate the radio one live lounge albums (some excellent covers on them too ) :D
 
#5
War of the Worlds was covered a couple of years ago with Tom 'big nose, short arrse' Cruise as the lead man with, as usual, no acting character whatsoever. Film came to an abrupt and dissapointing end like the vinegar stroke of a great tug. Poor cover. Seems any big-wig actor in Hollywood these days hides behind the wonderment of CGI (?)
 
#6
Nothing wrong with covers, as long as the artist tries to improve upon the original song, or at least make it their own. If someone is going to try to repeat it note for note, to try to make it indistinguishable from the original, he/she might as well stick to karaoke.
 
#7
Radio 1's Live Lounge would be a bit boring, just having artistes singing their own tunes. Singing cover versions gives us an insight into who inspires them.

Personally, I think Travis's cover of "Hit me baby one more time" by Britney (I'm mental, me) Spears on the Jo Whiley Show is superb. They own that song !

As for this "Hallejujah" song, I've not heard it.
Serves anyone right for watching Chav TV. You know full well that eXcrement Factor will dish out some drivel in time for Christmas.
 
#8
SLFs covers of Bob Marleys Johnny Was, Bunny Wailers Roots Radics Rockers and Reaggae and The Specials Doesn't Make it Alright are ways covers should be done...with full on (dogs) bollocks. They have made great tunes sound out-of-this-world.

Proper bollocks fucked up covers have to include that shite that Leona Lweis just Karaoked to death recently
 
#9
The house of the rising sun is the classic cover, originally by Hoagy Carmichael, but a big hit for the Animals, and their version still gets played, what 40 years after they covered it
 
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#10
The Clash's " I fought the law" is a cover

As is The Pogues "And the band played waltzing Mathilda"

Joe Strummer does a brilliant " Redemption Song".......well he did!
 
#11
I don't think that there is one cover version on Seals latest album that is half as good as the originals, what ever made him think that he could better Sam Cooke, Otis Redding etc etc..
 
#12
There are some genuis cover versions out there:

Futureheads covering Kate Bush's Hounds of Love,
Radiohead covering Carly Simon's The Spy Who Loved Me,
Alannis Morisette covering The Black Eyed Peas' My Humps,
Ben Folds covering Dr Dre's Bitches Ain't Shit,
Fiona Apple covering The Beatles' Across The Universe,
Smashing Pumpkins covering Fleetwood Mac's Landslide,
The Kooks covering MGMT's Kids.

I even quite like Coldplay's version of The Pretenders' 2000 Miles, and Scissor Sisters' cover of Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb is growing on me :D
 
#13
Metallica's cover of Astronomy by Blue Oyster Cult is immense.
 
#14
skintboymike said:
Nothing wrong with covers, as long as the artist tries to improve upon the original song, or at least make it their own. If someone is going to try to repeat it note for note, to try to make it indistinguishable from the original, he/she might as well stick to karaoke.
Yeah thought Guns &Roses version of live and let die is far superior to the original version
 
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#15
Of course we do have the Scissor Sisters' " Comfortably numb" which is far superior to the original old kak.............
 
#16
Anything by Jive bunny :x
 
#18
There are good covers around and always have been. No-one minds when an established group cover an old classic.

The problem is when you get these no hoper karaoke singers who live on covering good tracks and making them worse. I think that Simon Cowell is to blame with his karaoke star shows where the 'winner' gets to karaoke over an old track, release it and make a £million from the youth of today who buy whatever Simon Cowell tell them to buy.
 
#19
Some covers I like: Originals in ()

Metallica - Whisky In The Jar (Traditional)
Metallica - Turn The Page (Bob Segar)
Ozzy Osbourne - In My Life (Beatles)
Megadeath - Anarchy In The UK (Sex Pistols)
Alien Ant Farm - Smooth Criminal (Michael Jackson)
Guano Apes - Big In Japan (Alphaville)
Lars Frederickson & The Bastards - Leaving Here (Motorhead).....A rare case of the cover being as good as the original
White Stripes - Stop Breaking Down (Robert Johnson)
White Stripes - Jolene (Dolly Parton)


One cover I hate: Madonna - American Pie...totally killed it :(
 
#20
schweik - " "With a little help from my friends" and "She came in through the Bathroom Window" - both originally by the Beatles and covered by Joe Cocker. They're on the live album of his 1970 tour of USA "Mad Dogs and Englishmen" and are great."

Different era, different technologies, different distribution, different proliferation, different mind sets, different talent.

When the Beetles started, like just about everyone else, they were a cover band. Good on you, good on them, IF you could get to hear an American Blues or R'n'R (real R'n'R) import, learnt to play/sing it, and present it live where the bulk of Joe Public probably heard it for the first time. Other than getting over 'our music' there were/are commercial reasons for original material as the royalties aren't split.

‘With a little help’ was an ‘a another’ Beetles track which Cocker presented totally re-arranged for dramatic impact – that in itself not new but significant from the ‘straight copies’ of songs, alla so much from Marty Wilde. Actually, if you wanted to own a 45 of a current ‘hit’ but didn’t want/didn’t have the 6/3 (or 6/8) to lay out, chances are you could get it from Wooleys for a lot less (think 4/6) on the Embassy label, but recorded by studio performers.

If there was ‘a good song’ it was not unusual for any number of artists to record it – viz. ‘Route 66’ – but it was true that there were legions of writers, in and out of bands, trying to get their material picked-up and recorded. Rather than Cocker’s re-arranged/transformed ‘cover’ version, most today appear to be just copies relying on the new market not knowing/attaching significance/giving a monkeys re the original. The quicker the new market emerges and the shorter its duration, the more the opportunity to cover ‘obsolete’ material.

Several other ‘today’ factors, IMHO. 1. No apprenticeship – meaning no requirement to actually learn how to sing, to play an instrument and take your what you have to the public ‘on the road’, it doesn’t work that way. Step away from the mirror in your bedroom and convince a promoter they can make money with you and you are a ‘star’, and, if money is made it must be true. However, it has always been the case that being a brilliant singer/musician does not equate to big bucks, many have always scratched an existence on the breadline of virtual obscurity. 2. In tandem with the above I do not believe we have the quality or quantity of writers any more. 3. If the money men are telling Joe Public ‘what they want’, and the bottom line vindicates all, then Joe Public, possibly because they themselves want to be a ‘star’ rather than an accomplished singer/musician, are cr@p and deserve what they get – or what they pay for.

Bottleosmoke – ”The Clash's " I fought the law" is a cover”

Yeah, Bobby Fuller Four, but perhaps it’s more relevant to ask how much was ‘borrowed’ for the Kaiser Chiefs ‘ ‘I predict a riot’???

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