Course database

#3
Just mulling it over, as I am self-employed and have to fit the TA around my work commitments, not the other way round - which I appreciate would make the TM's life a lot easier ;)

Perhaps someone from armynet will read this, take it up and run with it.

msr
 
#4
Yes that would be useful, its fine for guys to bleat on and say "Get the course book of your psi" but some units simply dont have them. The mod spent a fortune on Dii, its about time it got used for more than solitaire and email
 
#5
is it not aleady on DII?

My PSI looked up a course electronically - god knows where though!

Sadly the Army's mania for sticking 'RESTRICTED' on everything probably means it will never see the light of day.

How do regs find out about courses?
 
#6
Quote:

"is it not aleady on DII?

My PSI looked up a course electronically - god knows where though!

Sadly the Army's mania for sticking 'RESTRICTED' on everything probably means it will never see the light of day.

How do regs find out about courses?"



It is available on the Intranet - your PSI probably got it from there.
 
#8
DII will get you onto the intranet.

And to answer your next question, no you have to use the PCs in the TAC, you can't do this from home.

msr
 
#9
Purple_Emperor said:
How do regs find out about courses?
Does two weeks in Castlemartin not appeal? :wink:

Not much better for them unless things have changed recently. They go directly or indirectly to their Coy / Sqn 2ic, who piles through booklets. But how do they know - outside the obvious STA & promotion cses - what courses are available to actually ask about? They don't. Can their Coy / Sqn 2ic search by date, rank or specialism? No.

IT has arrived, in that you can look at the course booklets as .pdfs. Not actually easier than the paper equivalent.

< Tangent Mode >

This is exactly why the army has so many blokes with the time, quals and inclination for courses, keen to get on them, units keen for their guys to get on courses, and establishments wondering why everyone complains about them but never seem to turn up.

Great isn't it. Don't worry, your unit - like most TA units - would struggle with MTDs to send you on on a "nice to have" one anyway. Ho hum.

However, the best practical advice I can offer - go to your PSI / PSAO in a spare hour, ask nicely for the booklets and go through them yourself. Make a wishlist and give copies to your Tp Ldr, the Sqn Trg Offr and PSI. Mention it alot, and don't be afraid to pester. Even better speak to people at the trg establishment in question and learn as much as you can about it. You then have great answers to the inevitable questions "Whats it all about?", "Why should we send you?", and "How do we go about it?".

Bit of a tiresome process, but worth it in the end. Like good AT expeditions all the effort and persistence pays off if you're successful. I've known people get on parachuting courses, Italian mountaineering courses, go on attachment to random sister regiments abroad by doing the leg work, persuasion & being prepared to do a deal.

Those who never ask and put the effort it are likely to get the courses they need, and no more.

Worth a try.

Charlie
 
#10
Purple_Emperor said:
is it not aleady on DII?

My PSI looked up a course electronically - god knows where though!

Sadly the Army's mania for sticking 'RESTRICTED' on everything probably means it will never see the light of day.
Most course dates can be found on RLI, access to this network is via several systems such as TANET, Land ICSS(R), REEBOK, DII, DII(FD), LDCN, J1/J4 IOS etc
 
#11
theflyinghandbag said:
It is available on the Intranet - your PSI probably got it from there.
Don't suppose you'd be good enough to provide a link dear boy (only usefull to us 'lucky' individuals to have access to the RLI of course).
 
#12
Charlie_Cong said:
IT has arrived, in that you can look at the course booklets as .pdfs. Not actually easier than the paper equivalent.
CC,

I'm going out on a limb here, but the pdf must be compiled from a database. Having written a small online database and searches it is a v. simple task to web-enable it.

You could then ensure that the db has all the latest amendments, stick it on armynet (blanking the restricted courses of course) and Robert is your mother's brother.

Just a list of course titles, dates and rank required would be sufficient.

msr
 
#14
StabTiffy2B said:
msr said:
Just a list of course titles, dates and rank required would be sufficient.
A description of the actual course would be handy too. Sometimes those titles are a little misleading...
Agreed (feck, that must be a first).

It might be handy to have any special requirements on there as well, especially in terms of other courses you have to have completed before being allowed on this one.

For example, I don't think you can go straight to CBRN Instr without having done Ack Instr, but you can go direct onto BCDT without previous quals?

I may be wrong on the fine detail of this, but you see from whence I come?
 
#15
Yes, as part of the ongoing mulling process, I reckon the following fields should be included:

Date
Title of course
Description of Course
Rank required
Course pre-requisites

ArmyNet has a real opportunity to position itself as a prime facility for the TA.

msr
 
#16
Charlie_Cong said:
Does two weeks in Castlemartin not appeal? :wink:
Maybe I'm going to be at Castlemartin,maybe I already have a gucci underwater knife fighting course to go on, who knows :wink:

My question was really along the lines of 'now one has access to DII for JPA, if one were to have a spare hour sitting around in the Squadron office would it be possible to log on and look up courses oneself?'
 
#17
It would definitly be useful to have a course database because there are all sorts of course that my lads or myself could attend but never really hear much about them. Some brigades have course books on armynet but they never have the dates or there 2 years out of date. If I need to check the course book I have to pop into my TAC during the day and I hate having to bother my PSI to check the book.
 
#18
minime33 said:
It would definitly be useful to have a course database because there are all sorts of course that my lads or myself could attend but never really hear much about them. Some brigades have course books on armynet but they never have the dates or there 2 years out of date. If I need to check the course book I have to pop into my TAC during the day and I hate having to bother my PSI to check the book.
I may be wrong, but isn't that the point of your PSI? If he/she is worth their salt, they would be grateful to have a soldier pushing for courses.
 
#19
devilish said:
minime33 said:
It would definitly be useful to have a course database because there are all sorts of course that my lads or myself could attend but never really hear much about them. Some brigades have course books on armynet but they never have the dates or there 2 years out of date. If I need to check the course book I have to pop into my TAC during the day and I hate having to bother my PSI to check the book.
I may be wrong, but isn't that the point of your PSI? If he/she is worth their salt, they would be grateful to have a soldier pushing for courses.
Generally they are, however I don't want to waste my PSI's time by asking for all the available courses for Feb next year, which is when my contract currently ends, only to find that it has been cut short / extended and I need to look at courses in Nov or March

msr
 
#20
The answer to the person who asked about DII access for course info is that they are listed on a link to DIN2007-06-027 which takes you to the ARTDnet. Once there looking under Training tab and All Arms Course for 2007/08 is available. Unfortunately, for those without intranet connection the DIN is Restricted so you will not see it listed under DINs on ARMYNET.
 

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